Trump faces a revolt from his MAGA base over the Epstein files
The Epstein files — and calls for Attorney General Pam Bondi to be fired — dominated a conservative conference in Tampa this weekend.
Blames Hillary, Obama and Biden for the Epstein Files, which also don't exist.
I love that he's getting torched by his own.
"revolt" lol.
There's mild grumbling from people who overwhelmingly seem to say they'll remain faithful to the cult until death.
No he doesn't.
He's kinda up against the foundational myth of Q-Anon here, so there's a chunk of true believers who are extremely vocal about this.
But the vast majority of the people that voted for him are conservative hypocrites to whom this was never more than another narrative, strategically leveraged to claim moral superiority and attack the enemy, in order to distract from their crimes and abuses.
It's like when Cromwell had to destroy the levellers.
Doesn't really matter if he's not planning on having another election.
TRUMP SHOULD BE ARRESTED
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Narrator: No he doesn’t.
Even the most "shocked" right-wing pundits who were screaming "COVER UP!" during the first few hours have now pivoted to "If there are secrets in there that could destroy corporations, we HAVE to trust daddy and protect the identities of the child rapists. We may not like it but preserving economic stability is more important than the lives of children."
Not even kidding on this one.
It's already over, the dust just hasn't fully settled as a large segment of the population is now being told all the moral outrage over "pedophilia" was just for when other people do it. If you're a big businessman or political leader, well that's just the cost of preserving the system that treats us all so well.
The party of morals, christianity, small government and individual rights everyone.
Yeah there have been many times already where it's been "they have to get that he's scamming them now, right?"
But they always go back and say "please sir, can we have some more?"
They're already trying to work out that it's all Pam Bondi's fault. Trump is just getting bad advice, etc.
I'm not feeling it either
It'll be a thing for a few days (this might last a week or two) and then it'll be over
Came here to say this. Little else matters in this thread.
It'll pass in ten minutes. These cultists do not have the same values as people we would consider 'normal'. This will not sway them any more than the past five dozen fucking times some fundamentally undeniable issue of hypocrisy in ultra-vile evil shite has come up.
Not a Republican but a lot of notable right wing figureheads are speaking up about it publicly. People with actual power are making noise. Turning point USA which is basically the nonprofit PAC that the runs their local and national media circus has spoken against it. I think they're all realizing the idea is bigger than the leadership. They might be ready to cut ties
Wait… wasn’t Drumpf the president when Epstein was charged?!? So why the fuck is this helmet haired douche trying to blame Hilary (always- it’s his scapegoat), Obama, and Biden?!? None of them were in any position at that point to “help the case” so SHOW US THE DAMN CLIENT LIST where Drumpf was named (we have all seen the pics of him and Epstein together so stop denying it! It’s embarrassing!!) and then we can move the fuck on! And realize that Drumpf is the wet toilet paper of trash and the voters of America who voted for him are basic AF and need to open a fucking damn book!! It’s probs because his cult has only one brain cell rolling around up there reminding them to breathe! 😂😂 stupid MAGATS!
The underlying purpose of the whole Qanon movement was basically to give Trump supporters a way to explain why he wasn't delivering on his promises during his first term.
So why the fuck is this helmet haired douche trying to blame Hilary, Obama, and Biden?!?
Because he's never accepted responsibility for anything he's ever done in his entire life?
Because deflecting the blame to others is his go to move when called out?
Because a large number of his base will believe that his deflections are true?
Because he is a spineless, gutless, nutless, mushroom-dicked, pedophile asshole, and blaming others for his failings is the only thing he can do short of owning it?
All of the above?
Edit:
“Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden administration.” -Trump
So that if the files somehow get leaked, he's already "discredited" them. I guess the FBI took a nap during his first term in office, which isn't suspicious in any way whatsoever.
You win best comment for the day! Amazing!!
Even reddit's /r/conservative is up in arms about it, it's great
The mods there are working overtime trying to ban everyone who questions the pedodent
I looked thinking you were wrong, but there are some top comments saying that. Assuming they're not fake... that's big
pedodent
Holy shit, lol. I really hope that term is becoming a thing.
I tried to engage with a devout trumper about his. They REFUSED to admit that trump was in any way involved with Epstein, despite photographic & video evidence. They ALWAYS furnished some excuse or deflection. Mostly involving Biden “sniffing little girls hair.”
Seriously. These people are deranged. There’s no breaking them from the cult.
Trump, his administration, and the Heritage Foundation are mentioned alongside "Epsttein memorabilia" in the videos from the Playground dark web forum leak:
screenshots: https://postimg.cc/gallery/4KZ0Jzk/c85de9af
I really don't want to know what qualifies as "Epstein memorabilia".
The Trumper I know said that Trump was Epstein‘s neighbor so of course they are seen together. 🤦♂️
That’s because they only have one brain cell up there and it’s telling them to keep breathing! They have nothing else up there but cobwebs and space!
To be fair, just being in a picture with someone doesn't make you "involved" at any level. At best, it's circumstantial evidence of nothing much.
Speaking of evidence
Still gonna put that in quotes next time, or is your cult forbidden from that?
See, it's just a video, doesn't mean anything, right?
Wait? It,s the left that's in a cult now? You know that's how children argue, right? "I know you are, but what am i?" Is a bad look for you.
Tell me, in this cult the left is in, who is the leader? Who is at the head, feeding the masses the mantras?
Seems like there hasnt been a leader that the left has fully trusted in many years, even decades. Likely evidence that they are thinking for themselves and not just following the bullshit of some pedophile dementia patient.
What do you think of the leaked video from the Playground forum??
screenshots: https://postimg.cc/gallery/4KZ0Jzk/c85de9af
Imagine being so stupid as to think the RAPIST was going to do something about sex trafficking pedos?
🤣 🤣
well, he's certainly an expert on the topic
Nobody rapes better than Trump! Nobody!
We been eaten good this summer fam.
Funny, but no.
We are trapped in our own cultivated echo-chambers. You are a victim of the same cognitive control mechanisms as the right if you think there is at all a large enough wave of regret and "realization" going through the general conservative or even median voting population to effectively produce change.
This is still not enough. If you want to understand why, spend a day watching FOX or even CNN or MSNBC. Right-wing news is already moving onto other bullshit topics like trade and trans athletes and immigration successes. The other networks are using this latest drama to squeeze the last traces of pus from the emotional pimple from a population that wants to read a feel-good, satisfying "We got 'em!" story so they can get back to their comfortable lives.
The only way this will turn into anything with actual political action is if enough people actively serving in politics right now organize and use this to affect actual political decisions. Investigations, evidence, articles and coalitions. We were led to believe that the Democratic establishment was supposed to be doing this, as there really isn't any other sizeable organization working in politics who can, but the sad truth is that most dems are just working as cover for the fact that the entire establishment, republican and democrat, has been bought or is actively being attacked and dragged out of the picture for not being bought. (See: Mamdani)
You want this to mean something? Go get involved in your local political groups and work on getting rid of the foundation of this pyramid of slime that supports our congress and senate.
Couldn't agree more. The things I see online are completely different from what I see in real life.
In real life, the vast majority of people aren't paying attention to any of this drama at all. They have no idea what's going on. (And if they do, they surely aren't talking about it.) The Republican party is going to be fine, thanks to apathy.
My guess, he's got people typing out documents that say
EPSTEIN FILES
They'll release it in a couple days.
More likely a black sharpie
Front page on ONN:
EPSTEIN FILES
It's definitely a broken crayon.
And yet, the Playground Forum leaked video suggests that it's almost entirely far-right ideologies who run america's internal human slave trade and child abuse groups.
screenshots: https://postimg.cc/gallery/4KZ0Jzk/c85de9af
"Bill Clinton and... other Presidents..."
Then he has to prosecute them, which I don't think he has the balls to do, tbh. He'll lock up farm workers and Home Depot employees, but he won't risk losing a high profile case against fellow elites at this stage.
“I think that these people — and I don’t know, for whatever reason, there could be reasons — but I don’t think they’re telling us the truth about Epstein,” podcaster Brandon Tatum told the assembled crowd at the Tampa Convention Center.
The reason is that the Glorious Leader is a pedophile and well know serial sexual harasser and rapist and releasing the Epstein files would conform what everyone other than the MAGAzi fascist bootlickers already know.
Department of Justice release the Epstein Surveillance video:
https://www.justice.gov/video-files/video2.mp4
August 9, 2019 released in July 2025, the Federal Bureau of Prisons release an 11 hour surveillance video of Jeffrey Epstein's upper atrium corridor, except it contains this sudden cut and minute removed from it.
The one minute cut is here:
The footage has been transformed on the X axis and scaled about 3.5% on X axis so, again, there's no way to check frame by frame for repeat use frames. The timestamp at the beginning is 7:40:00pm and the last timestamp is 6:40:00am, but the video is 10:52:23 in length, meaning there's almost 7.5 minutes missing, not just this one minute, which is seen in the cut. The initial report tells us that Jeffrey Epstein (Jewish) was allowed to make an unscheduled, unrecorded phone call (unmonitored). Using a non inmate telephone system line to a local 646 area code, at 6:58pm, contrary to BOP policy but with the permission of a Unit Manager, which lasted until 7:19pm then Epstein was taken back to his cell, without a cellmate.
is that the call that he said was to his mom who incidentally had passed away like a decade earlier
@burgerpocalyse
Yes it is, you know the subject well. The phone call was because JE drugged the guards. The deep state did a switcheroo :
https://www.printernational.co.uk/timmann/history.htm#epstein
One of his followers did try to shoot him for it. Strange, the shooter’s reasons were not well publicized.
I'll believe that when I see it. Till then, all MAGAt morons are pro- pedofilia and they'll fall back into line once Faux News Entertainment tells them to.
It's amazing how they are pro-pedophilia (due to their continued support and blindness towards all the real pedophiles around them) but screech about looking for pedophiles everywhere, or at least they were a few years ago! How can anyone trust these people when they support the thing they purport to loathe. When will this all blow up?
Add in the criminality of Trump and Co, and these guys are looking in all the wrong places!
It's the party of projection. Everything they talk about is solely because that's what they are doing/would do if given the opportunity.
It’s the art of war 101, accuse your enemy of what your you yourself are already doing. In this case, it’s the rape of children, the president is a rapist, president rapist JFC
A trump supporter I know, always brings up politics, which I avoid when talking to them.
The past month or so, they have not brought it up at all. So, I think I’m starting to see it.
Oh I finally called my sister out for voting for him once my dad admitted he did and she went all in on the "well he didn't even need to win our state so my vote didn't matter." I said bitch you flew the flag which influenced others and bought his shit so it financed him, what you did mattered! So yeah I think she is feeling guilty so I made sure to make it worse.
I honestly believe that they could release the files with his name still in them & the majority of his cult would still make excuses for him.
Yeah, I also doubt that. No one cares on the MAGA side
Unhinged Holy shit. This is the energy that teen girls channel during a break up
Trump is now claiming that Biden and Obama created the Epstein files. The only reason for him to do this is that the files aren't damaging to Democrats and confirm that Trump is a serial pedophile rapist.
Shocking allegations about the guy that used to creep around in the Miss Teen USA changing room!
Pretty sure that openly expressing a desire to fuck his daughter is a dead giveaway.
Definitely. I hope the full truth comes out.
Of course the files are going to be damaging to Democrats. You don't think the rich and powerful are any different across party lines did you? The only reason the Democratic party is as "ethical" and good as it is (it isn't very), is because the voter base has a slightly smaller appetite for bullshit. Hopefully they'll do the right thing and push ny even further left too, we need to roast the DNC over the coals if we have any luck of charging the future for the better. Or maybe there will just be revolution
The reporter obviously doesn't know how maga cultists functions. There is no revolt against Trump, they are just waiting for the official Trump propaganda excuse, and in the meanwhile are left to their own moronic devices.
Yep. This too shall blow over, leaving at most a "shrug, I didn't like how he handled the whole Epstein situation but I voted for him for a third term because he's the only one who can save the country and make America great again"
How many people do you think are actually maga? There is some overlap of beliefs between the r’s and the extremists, and I think the r’s are starting to recognize that their party has been hijacked.
They get confused, he provides direction, they happy again
“It’s not even about Pam Bondi to me. It’s like, look, Trump, we elected you because you were supposed to be different,” said Sharon Allen, a 24-year-old attendee. “So you have to prove to us you’re different….you can fire her [Bondi], do whatever, but at the end of the day, Trump, you are president. We trusted you to get rid of these people and expose these people.”
These dumbasses believe the lie of Trump so much that they’re shocked when he does exactly what the rest of us expected.
Do they not realize Epstein was killed when Trump was president the first time?
I believe you know the answer to that already.
I saw one where someone said something like "You're making yourself look like what the crazy left says about you!"
Yeah, and that's where the thought terminates. Never, "huh, I wonder if that means they're not crazy."
Would the maga base even care if they found out they were supporting a pedophile?
Much like everything else, he just needs to own it.
If he put out a message saying "Women are peak when they're 13 and Jeff was the only guy who really knew that RIP" and dropped the file at the same time he could skate...
But he won't say it because he's spent years demonizing the Dems about the list while he's on it. So since "the list" is bad and he's on the list, it can't come out, but since he's in charge of releasing it and he has told his base to care they do. He could even say "I'm just on the list because Obama put me on there!" and he'd skate.
I don't get it, honestly, but there's too many scenarios where he gets off fine. His friends just don't want it to come out because they're not him and they won't get off free.
I mean, no, because we've known that he is one for decades.
Isn't that why they support him?
It seems like this could be a turning point in Trump's popularity with his base. I welcome it.
That's not Epstein list. It's just book with a bunch of contacts. Some Epstein met, some Epstein wanted to meet.
As per Snopes:
Because according to Mr. Rodriguez’s statement in the affidavit, the book was compiled by employees of Mr. Epstein, not by Mr. Epstein himself. Those contacted for this article acknowledged having met Ghislaine Maxwell, Mr. Epstein’s former girlfriend and “lady of the house,” and posited perhaps that was how their names ended up in the book. (It is unclear from the affidavit whether Ms. Maxwell is one of the “employees.” Ms. Buck said that she had met Ms. Maxwell at a boutique opening but that “she never phoned me.”)
The Integillience did a deep dive on the contacts in the book.
Snopes is about as trustworthy as donald trump, or any other corporate Main stream media outlet owned by billionaires. Just a bunch of bullshit to stop any critical thinking dead in it’s tracks and preserve the status quo
Conrad Black 🙄🙄🙄
Thank you. I’ve been wondering whether I had hallucinated this, since it sounds like many people have forgotten this exists.
We saw this a full decade ago. It’s the contents of his ‘black book’, and trump is listed specifically under the ‘Island’ heading.
Where is this from?
Doubt
What’s going to happen when maga finds out that everything they were groomed to believe in is all about the very people they listened to, trusted in and destroyed for? I hope they redirect their anger to start pushing democrats to start doing their job and starts pushing out those who are not for the people. Hope this starts a productive team up of the people vs the corrupt, rich and powerful.
Why is it Americans never hold the GOP to account? Why is it when the GOP does something bad, you have to somehow work it around so it's somehow the Democrats fault? Why do you wonder why it's difficult to keep the GOP from getting power and doing horrible shit when everyone in the US blames everything on the Democrats even when they aren't in power?
I'm Canadian and I wouldn't blame the opposition party for something the governing party is doing. It's a strange part of American culture to blame a Democrats for everything and it doesn't make any sense. And it doesn't happen the other way, I don't recall people ever blaming the Republicans when the Democrats do something they don't like.
It's a weird thing about American culture and it's resulted in the party that gets blamed for everything having no power to stop the party that never gets blamed for anything. But y'all continue blaming them for being in this situation.
What’s going to happen when maga finds out that everything they were groomed to believe in is all about the very people they listened to, trusted in and destroyed for
Nothing, just like the last 500 times this happened.
I’m shocked they have lasted more than 2 days. Usually they have eaten and digested the absolute shit that trump talks and are on their knees begging for more by now, usually so they can own the libs. This is the first glimmer of integrity I’ve seen from them. Very weird.
I'm not hoping much, but if at least a small percentage of them get swayed, it might be enough to lose him the next election. (I'm automatically assuming he will keep running for a third term. These people don't stop unless they are stopped.)
Trump and his team are also mentioned along side Epstein in the video leaks of the "Playground Forum" dark web site:
"If there was something in them, the Democrats would have released them, but even though there's nothing in them, I won't release them."
So it does exist.
This is just copium.
To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.
99% of them are sooner to literally get on their knees and offer their mouth than ever speak against him.
Trump supporters are what they are. They have no spine. They are cowards that fear everything but the things they understand and think they control. They are the dirt of the earth, meant to be tread on, elevated only by the worms that crawl from it and tell them fanciful stories of their pretensive grandeur.
Better to be dead with your dignity than alive and in support of this man. The people shall take turns defecating on his grave when he's gone... All of us, and all of those who call themselves his loyal followers.
There are none truly loyal to men such as this.
I NEVER THOUGHT THE LEOPARD WOULD EAT MY FACE!!!!
well about time he got a taste of his own medicine.
Bullshit... this is all just distraction...
Everything's a distraction from everything else.
This exactly. Just because this is meant to distract from some other fresh hell, does not mean that this is something to be ignored.
It's part of their strategy. Firehose of bullshit.
Is pissing off his base a lot. I’ll take it.
This is nothing. The MAGAites will rally around whatever Trump says and he as already told them to move on.
Are they bringing their guns to the lynching? I hope they're bringing their guns to the lynching.
I’ll take things I don’t give two fucks about for a thousand, Alex.
No Trump is not.. his fans still adore him..
no he doesn't.
How much is this a revolt over the Epstein files and how much is it just a vent for the general dissatisfaction of the people? I imagine they're quite angry about a number of things by now, including that groceries didn't get cheaper, as trump promised would happen on "day one", so i guess this might just be a general way to vent.
metacognitive myopia even prevents people from updating their beliefs about the existence of WMDs.
Well at this point everyone wants to bury it & any mention of the real reason is pretty obvious to anyone in the know. He was an Intelligence Asset
These people love power more than integrity. Until there's action it's all just posturing.
...don't sell what you cannot provide...
Trumpstein
Someone told me an interesting thought that I'm surprised right people who somehow still want this mayhem have not thought of:
Even if they can somehow remove everyone that they want to remove whether it is people of color, immigrants, etc they too, white people, would still be replaced as well without realizing it
Russins would not let them keep any power or money. They would take it away the first chance they get and put their own Russin people into levers of power
What? Are they now disappointed that he is no certified child molester? Just wait, I bet there is enough evidence to show that he is one of them.
Americans are only outraged by whoever tells them to be outraged about