What is this shit? I have to be signed in to watch any video now?
What is this shit? I have to be signed in to watch any video now?


What is this shit? I have to be signed in to watch any video now?
oh hey, that's me! And the video is also on fedi! https://pawb.fun/@slyka/113028002924181756
Turning a CD into the equivalent of a vynil. Now that's something I never expected. Looks like a CD could fit maybe 3 tracks?
@ICastFist very very short ones maybe. Everything but the very outside edge is already outside of the range designed to be played on a regular turntable, so the surface speed is very low and the angle of the tone arm gets kinda extreme. My automatic turntable won't play these at all unless you're very careful since every quick movement of the tone arm that far in makes it think it's hit the runout groove and stops playback.
Oh very nice! I never would have thought that it could be possible to play a CD like that. Your other videos on YouTube are also very cool and interesting.
@frittoBee it's not really playing a CD, its cutting a groove like on a vinyl record into the CD and then playing it on a record player.
LMAO at the irony of YouTube taking a stand against bot scraping as if that isn't Google's entire business model.
Its always the same when some big tech company says its to protect you or the community.
We are here to Protect and Serve ads
"protect", more like "corral"
And every comment section on YouTube being filled with bots, tons of channels run only with AI etc.
Google is on an enshittification speed-run. Close-source Android, combine with ChromeOS. Advertise the crap out of YouTube, draconian login requirements. Wherever their income is coming from now, it isn't from making products users want. Probably the military "AI" overseas contracts.
I've been de-Googling the last few years casually as functional replacements came along and I'm down to threads now, but the icing on the cake was their injecting an ad into a funeral ceremony stream from a church on YouTube. Sure, software-side, we all know why it happened, but just. No.
I'm also mostly de-Googled now. I'm not signed in anywhere and don't use most of the google stuff. It wasn't really that hard since there are great alternatives. But saying no to YouTube and all the nice channels I'm following is really hard.
For youtube just use yt-dlp and download them, can be behind a vpn when you do it. Im not sure if that affects the creator making money though.
Try invidious.
The nice channels, those days are gone. The internet we knew has been destroyed or will be diminished to an annoying shadow pretty soon. If you had to put a % on what is now monitized or stripped for data what would it be?
I've started getting captcha every time I do a Google search. Not sure what that's about but it's made the decision to pursue alternatives easy.
When you are forced to do captchas make sure you do them as badly as possible while appearing to be human!
These fuckers weren't even paying attention to the "precision vs. accuracy" concept introduced in the first lecture in the one science class they had to take. Make them pay for their ignorance.
Ive been using bing. Not a fan of microsoft but so far it hasnt been too bad
Youtube is not a 'community.' Fuck youtube.
No it is a community. It's just that they're lying that this is protecting it.
I would say it's not a community just based on the fact that you can't have any kind of actual conversation in the comments section. Commenting on YouTube videos is just screaming into the void.
This helps protect our community.
I hate when companies lie to my face. Watching a video anonymously is not harming anyone except maybe a fraction of a cent of cost to Google. If I was posting a comment or something maybe, but oh, you already need to be logged in for that.
Yeah, it's funny. The bots are actually logged in to shitpost.
They want to track you, and if you don't let them (VPN, 3rd party client, VM, etc) then they pull this shit.
I always use VPN and when I get this nonsense I know it's nonsense because the video plays perfectly if I switch to a different country and reload the page.
Same
ThIs HeLpS pRoTeCt OuR cOmMuNiTy!!!!
You're probably using revanced or vanced ... there was a recent patch, you have to update it.
It also does it sometimes if you’re on a VPN.
I'm getting it constantly in my old reddit app with vpn off. Seems if it doesn't recognize your browser fingerprint it will call you a bot.
I normally use NewPipe but that didn't work so I used Firefox and got that lovely message on the video. But now, a few hours later, it all works again...
Are you also using something like ubo?
He's using a browser version not revanced
Yes. It's been this way for about a year now.
Fucking sucks. I used to enjoy looking at YouTube while signed out so that I could see new content that my algorithm refuses to show me. Now I can't.
I can still watch videos logged out most of the time. That message only appears occasionally and when it does I use Celluloid or Freetube to watch the video.
I wonder what sort of demographics are effected by this, because it's the first I've heard of it and I semi-regularly browse while signed out.
Yeah I'll frequently pop a private window when watching something I don't want mucking with my recommendations and I've only ever been prompted to sign in for age verification
It's a automated test to see if you will log in to Google or if you walk away.
This is why it's so inconsistent... It's only sometimes, it changes if you change browsers or vpn endpoints. They make money from logged out users, so they are testing to see if they can push users into logging in without losing money.
You use a VPN? This pops up when my VPN is on.
No I don't use a VPN
AI bots that are not google's. They want exclusive ownership of juicy training data.
That doesn't make sense though, since they can just create a bunch of free accounts for the bots to use.
invidious skips this pesky bullshit
Switching the VPN server helps for me sometimes
Yeah sometimes I gotta do annoying ass captchas because of this
Oh they have videos now? Last time i was there it was mostly just ads
If you are lucky you get ads before a paid review of a product that was donated by the manufacturer and then ads in between
Ive been seriously considering just deleting youtube and using nebula in place of youtube. Im just not sure if the subscription is worth it. I love the idea of no ads, supporting the creators directly, and not supporting google. Has anyone here tried nebula? Would love to hear your thoughts
I tried Nebula for a while and as the others said, it is worth it, but not enough to replace YouTube for me.
I spent a year with it, it wasn't enough to completely replace youtube but if you have the money I definitely felt it was worth it. I only let it run out for money reasons
Great platform with a ton of amazing creators. Definitely worth a subscription, but not a full replacement for yt. Revanced can at least get rid of the ads/improve ux.
Would love to quit youtube if most of the people I watch move to Peertube or any other alternative, Like what happened to Twitter and people moved to Bsky
Nobody here has suggested switching to Invidious, we’re suppose to be promoting open source alternatives!
Man 90% of Invidious instances are dead/not working for me, and of the few that do, they get mad at me for using an agent switcher (which I turn off but still). Freetube is slightly better, but will also break every few days and either require VPN switching or waiting for a fix from the devs.
Sidenote: LibRedirect users, are all LibReddit instances dead or is it just me?
Man 90% of Invidious instances are dead/not working for me, and of the few that do, they get mad at me for using an agent switcher
While true, Invidious instances were dropping like flies due to the amount of maintenance needed to keep it alive, Invidious admins shouldn’t be flagging you for using a user agent switcher.
I’m not sure of your nationality however, if you’re looking for an invidious instance I host one for folks with Canadian IP’s at https://inv.halstead.host/
Freetube is slightly better, but will also break every few days and either require VPN switching or waiting for a fix from the devs.
If I’m not mistaken Freetube can either use Invidious instances to proxy video playback or directly connect to YouTube servers, have you verified neither of these work?
Sidenote: LibRedirect users, are all LibReddit instances dead or is it just me?
Libreddit died when Reddit made the APi change a couple years back, RedLib which is a fork is maintained.
I also host a Redlib instance at https://lib.halstead.host/ again geo-restricted to Canadian IP’s.
Invidious instance I use that has never caused me problems: https://invidious.f5.si/feed/popular
as far as libreddit...yeah it can be hit or miss. safereddit.com is generally pretty decent and hasn't gone down too much, only issue I have with that is videos are very slow to play if at all.
I've always found Freetube to be the best, most reliable alternative by far. It does break occasionally though which is disappointing, but I would assume that's due to YouTube fighting hard to keep people on their own platform.
This is why I use things like Newpipe on my phone or FreeTube on my desktop/laptop. Why deal with a massive headache when I can bypass the agitator?
the IP block unfortunately applies to newpipe as well. you'd have to sign in to make it go away
For now, a fix that works for me on that has been just restarting my phone. Probably a very temporary solution that yt is working on preventing from working, but at least it works.
Yea I normally use Newpipe as well but it didn't work so I switched to browser for this video.
Fair enough.
Use the libredirect extension to redirect links automatically to an open alternative
I already get redirected to NewPipe. I only use the browser when NewPipe is not working.
Or search on fdroid. Love it
Our community is so delicate. It could die if they see a bot watching a video.
What will it take to make PeerTube relevant enough that people will creat content and follow creatos on the fediverse?
The masses don't know how to search for information anymore. Not only that, but they are unable to do so with the disparity of their understanding of the search engines and the current state of search engines. People are used to being fed information through an algorithm, and those who control the algorithm aren't about to promote a competitor that'd take away their money.
Is it possible for creators to earn money on PeerTube? If not, maybe that's what's holding a lot of them back. And of course the fact that most people don't know what PeerTube is. It should be easily accessible for everyone and have some kind of system to give the creators money. And make the switch from YouTube easy.
Most creators on YouTube make their main money from patreon/merch anyway. No reason you can't do that on peertube.
It's possible, but they have to implement the paywall or ad revenue by themselves. They are allowed to monetize, but it's not necessarily trivial or even profitable, at this point.
Accessibility, usability, scalability at very, very large scale, actual searchability, and actual return on investment, because some people actually get money from youtube?
Actually, peertube, depending on the instance and the popularity of the content, can be incredibly frustrating for a viewer. And it can be frustrating to the content creator. Some people are quick to dismiss minor (and less minor) annoyances, are able to look for fixes, and so on, but for almost everyone? The experience is nightmareish, with incertain returns (or no returns at all, as it stands).
Once you fix all that, you might have a chance to convince larger entities to move to peertube. Well, more realistically, to host their own instance. Well, more realistically, to host multiple instances, because really some people would hammer the platform down with each video. See the issue yet?
I agree, but I didn't really get the last point about hammering the platform.
Most "non tech-savvy" people I've tried to explain the concept of open source software and initiatives like the Fediverse to just outright don't trust them. Whilst they might say they'd prefer for software and services to not track or manipulate them if you asked them directly, they can't truly conceive of tech that doesn't.
The only interactions these people have had with the digital world have been as part of the modern data scraping hellscape that was once termed "Web 2.0" after the internet went mainstream in the '00s. They weren't part of the internet when it was a niche interest and more open, so they know no better and accept that predatory behaviour as the way of things.
I'm not an expert in psychology but I don't think it's overly dramatic to say it puts me in mind of those poor individuals who were abused as children, never received therapy and go on to seek out other abusers in adulthood.
Nothing.
There is a massive gap between the aspirations of online consumers, and actual consumer behavior.
People will never ever support creators, that's the bottom line. People are greedly little fucks and they like it. Don't fool yourself.
I say this as a former massive streamer will millions of watched hours. People. Are. Shit.
I think it has a lot to do with people not having enough money. I'd love to support every creator I like but its simply not possible. If we'd all earn enough money the creators would earn more as well.
Sorry, but I don't think what you said is correct. People love supporting others and it happens all the time to many creators. Sorry your experience was negative.
If you're in a VPN, this might be the cause
Music on CDs
Haha yes it was your link under that Wii sports music post that I tried to watch in the browser.
@frittoBee@lemmy.world !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
IMHO, it's better to boycott and abandon Youtube (and other mainstream platforms) altogether, either prioritizing open alternatives (PeerTube) and/or prioritizing the consumption (and production) of static content (text and images).
Regarding the open alternatives, it baffles me how Fediverse users often can recall of Invidious (and other workarounds) but can't recall of a Fediverse platform, even when there are many PeerTube instances available out there, both general-purpose and niche instances.
Alongside the adoption of PeerTube and other open alternatives, the abandonment or de-prioritization of video formats is also interesting as a mentally-healthy option because video can't help but deceive our brains into perceiving "something" that isn't there (to better understand this, I recommend the René Magritte's art "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" a.k.a. "The Treachery of Images", as well as the René Descartes's philosophy on the human senses). To make matters worse, YT and other corp video platforms are dopaminergic casinos, trapping users inside an ouroboric addiction of video feeds while creating the illusion of parasocial relationships (i.e. as if the gazillion-subscribers "influencer" were a personal friend/colleague/lover, when they're not: each user is just another bitstream they both think they "see" amidst an unstoppable digital rain generated by a grid of three LEDs tailored to deceive our trio of retinal cones... but, well, this is a very bleak and digressing statement of mine).
Personally, It's been a long while since I stopped accessing YouTube/TikTok videos. I used to publish my own videos, I used to be subscribed to hundreds of "channels" and I was even a paid "member" to specific YT channels. I abandoned it all and I rarely put myself into watching videos.
Yes, there's a myriad of knowledge and content available only in motion picture format, and there is also the kind of knowledge that cannot be written as text or represented as a static image, and this is where open video platforms can thrive, but people, especially us Fediverse users, should advocate more for these alternatives such as PeerTube.
Of course, even PeerTube doesn't solve the fact of how video unfortunately are perfect smoke-and-mirrors deceiving our naïve biological senses and making us overly used to fast and/or shallow content as we lose our own ability to read and write deep and lengthy texts such as this one. At the end of the day, humans are gradually ceding the ability to write, once extremely valued and valuable among humans, to Markov chain algorithms (a.k.a. LLMs), in part due to us getting more and more used to media formats. But, at least, PeerTube doesn't try to trap us into an endless feed and doesn't try to extort us or sell our personal data to countless partners/sponsors, so it's way better than YouTube or any workarounds to continue accessing the Google's dopaminergic casino.
The content is just not there, brother
@descartador@lemmy.eco.br !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
Yeah, unfortunately. I'm aware of that... However, it's both a Catch-22 situation and a self-fulfilling prophecy: content isn't there, so people refrain from using it, but this leads to the very situation where the content isn't there because they refrain from using it.
It seems curious to me how corporate solutions miraculously have the content, but open alternative haven't. It's not just the first-mover effect because TikTok also "have the content" and it came decades after YouTube. In fact, PeerTube first appeared in 2018, the same year when TikTok began to rank first in app stores.
This can be referred to as "The Cassandra Curse" seemingly inherent of open-source alternatives: people prefer migrating to corporate-owned Bluesky instead of going to Mastodon or Sharkey, because "Mastodon doesn't have the content/people". Sooner or later, the same people goes full SurprisedPickachu.jpg complaining when their favorite corporate platform eventually and inexorably goes rogue against their userbase.
And, even then, people prefer to pull the algorithmic Sisyphean boulder (Invidious, Grayjay just for accessing Youtube instead of the many other platforms it supports, etc) and mental gymnastics ("Google is evil but, hey, look, there's a new Youtube video from Rossmann about how Google is evil" then proceeds to share some Youtube link that either requires logging in or requires one to find some working VPN/Invidious instance) instead of letting it go from a product sold by an company that explicitly calls themselves as "advertisement company" (Google). Both viewers and content creators continue to put their efforts and data inside a Walled Garden they often complain about.
That's why the modern dystopia is getting worse as the time passes, because corporations noticed how easy it is to lure people into their Walled Garden and, once people are well-established inside, corps can do as they please: raise prices and/or starting to charge users, adding more ads, taking away or paywalling features (nods to +2K and 60fps videos) and content, and people will continue to sustain the abusive relationship... because the alternatives "don't have content".
I'm not against solutions such as Invidious or Grayjay (and I have nothing against Rossmann, much to the contrary), but to me, using Youtube through technical workarounds is just drinking the Kool-aid with extra steps.
Also... Vi que você faz parte da instância brasileira do Lemmy, também sou brasileiro. Devo apontar também à necessidade do Brasil ter uma plataforma própria/nacional de vídeos, seja pública ou não, principalmente pelo fato da Google (e por extensão Youtube) ser estadunidense e pelo fato de como os EUA têm tentado influenciar no cenário nacional (e o Brasil continuar dependendo de plataforma estadunidense como Google/Youtube e Meta/WhatsApp-Facebook definitivamente não ajuda na soberania brasileira).
This has been happening to me in embeds for ages, and I am logged in. It doesn't even give any option to sign in or watch on YouTube, I just don't get to watch embeds anymore.
only we are allowed to steal these peoples content
I guess beware the danger of ToS that grants the platform unilateral rights to use your content they host; just because you don't care what they can do with it now doesn't mean some new tech won't come along that lets them use your content in ways that horrify you
I watch YouTube in the background with Vivaldi and Brave on Android and never have to log in.
Just use invidious
Or tubular!
Or PeerTube.
Happened to me, too.
If you set VPN to some random country that isn't the US it will let you in just fine lmao
or at least that worked the last time I had this issue, I use an account for recommendations so I only get this if I'm looking up something sketchy.
Use pipepipe wooooooo
I am using a web browser too access Youtube and I don’t have to log in to access videos.
I have seen some of that, from within FreeTube. Some blocked ones were close to nudity (nude photography photoshoot BTS), others I'm not so sure why. Maybe they were blocked due to the word "Fuck" that shows up on the title. Not sure on your case, though
It didn't matter which video I tried to watch. But now it thankfully works again.