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Why is that?

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The extreme rise in food prices are due mostly to agribusinesses sharing trade data through algorithmic platforms. It’s collusion and price fixing with extra steps. The ones in charge of stopping these kind of practices are currently not interested in helping.

Saying this in response to a news story about rising food prices? The high food prices are still being talked about and are still a problem.
The "The Resistance" logo in the top-right makes sense as only democrats could come up with a dumb line of attack as "food prices were never actually a problem and people were just being told to be angry about this non-problem". This is the same party that boasted about saving consumers 16 cents for the 4th of July: https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-boasts-cookouts-are-16-cents-cheaper-this-year-internet-isnt-impressed-1606210
Almost as if they knew of how fucked the inflation would be and tried to run in front of it. That clearly didn't work, so they tried gaslighting everyone by claiming rising prices are a non-issue. If this is the resistance then we're fucked.
- Food prices are obviously always a problem. Basic needs are always a problem if not accessible properly.
  Though even as a non American I do notice that there is clearly less loud bitching, fingerpointing and blame getting tossed around. At least not in a jerk agressive way.
  My guess is that it really is because those loud annoying people are trump supporters who now keep their mouths shut.
  
  Perhaps, but we may also see it brought up again around midterms. Elections are usually when issues that people most care about are brought to the forefront.
- The problem is that before we all spoke of the issue. Now a large chunk of us speak nothing of it.
  
  The problem is that before we all spoke of the issue.
  The problem is that the biden administration pretended they solved the problem while it was still getting worse, after an administration whose first two years were spent breaking every promise to the left of joe manchin.

Last year, there was not a single conservative person in my "circle" that wasn't constantly griping about the cost of eggs and "Bidenflation". Poor souls could not afford to eat anymore, the only protein they supposedly lived on was eggs, but the price of those was so high they were just going without.
The moment that Trump took office, egg prices spiked again and suddenly these people understood that the president doesn't control the price of eggs and besides eggs cost so much due to the effects of bird flu. Suddenly these people who couldn't previously afford anything but eggs to eat are telling me that they're having roast beef for dinner, then pork chops, and so on. Literally nothing has changed in their lives except there's a different president and nearly everything is far more expensive, and yet all the financial woes they were complaining about this time last year no longer seem to exist.
I even mentioned the price of coffee, milk, and beef in a recent conversation. Supposedly these things were higher when Biden was president (not true), and when I refused to budge on that, suddenly it's back to "well the prices are determined by complex market conditions" and "the president has brought down the price of many other things like eggs".
It's literally impossible to have a logical and factual conversation with these types of people.
- I know you know this, but I have to jump on the train here.
  This is what Fox told them to say, and now they’re not. The whole thing is so obvious to anybody not in their clutches. I have a friend who, after the Jan 6 insurrection, was “done with Trump”. Guess who voted for him again and is convinced he’s doing a great job.
- The eggs thing wasn't complex market conditions, companies saw an excuse to raise prices in unison, they tripled their profits, and are slowly lowering them as sales decrease due to people buying fewer eggs. They're still up 200%.
  If you want to know what lowering food prices looks like, ask the chinese. Each city I went to had arrays of different policies, none of which started and ended with "give money to giant ag companies and the means to exploit migrant workers." Lot of policies helping retirees start micro farms.
  30 eggs for 2USD related.

Because the pro-Trump media now tells people it's because of the long-lasting effects of the Biden admin. Here in Hungary, we're still being told the awful state of the healthcare system is due to the Gyurcsány-era, that was in 2010(!), although they started to mix it up with a little "the EU isn't sending us money because we made a law that labels gay people pedophiles".
- Fucking EU always screwing us over. We're still waiting for our £300,000,000 a day for the NHS that the EU is feeding to brown people.. or whatever it was that we were promised
  It's definitely not governments lying constantly, right?

I think the main difference is that people were "apoplectic" when food prices had doubled or tripled in a year or two, and now they're only going up like 10%. But also because people get used to anything, and apparently one of the things they're used to right now is food being ridiculously expensive. Thirdly, most people get sick of a subject after a while so they engage less on it. Don't want another article, don't want another comment, they just turn it off and look at memes.
- Because the conservative outrage machine stopped focusing on it. You can be 100% assured if Harris had one they'd be threatening impeachment over beef being up 11%.

I'd say it's because during Biden's term he was running a fairly basic administration and during the run-up to the election, inflation was something they (repubs) could use to rile up the base, but now not only is the election long over, there's so much new horrible stuff every day (both real and made-up) in the spotlight that inflation pales in comparison.
- Also, Biden was actively tackling the problem by having investigations into large grocer chains and brandnames who reported record profits and increased prices, and we talked about that whether we were on his "side" or not. He also prevented a couple of mergers/acquisitions such as the Krogers Alberstsons merger. And that was boring in most cases and in some cases ineffective.
  Now that nothing is being done about any of it, theres less to talk about except "experts say this is really bad and it's going to get much much worse. Now for the weather forecast, take it away Carl."
  "Actually, Bob, with the loss of weather monitoring funding we're back to relying on Almanacs and to avoid liability I've been asked to not call it a forecast but a weather prediction."

Beef prices should go up, along with all meat prices, to reflect their ecosystemic toll. The problem is basic staples are also expensive.
- Absolutely this. Essential food should not be expensive. Meat, especially red meat, should be quite expensive and something you only eat rarely
  
  Won't this threaten your livelihood?
- yeah stop the corn and soybean subsidies and actually charge ranchers for letting their cattle graze on federal land and then the price will reflect what the real price of meat is.
  
  and actually charge ranchers for letting their cattle graze on federal land
  That's how we got the shit with Cliven Bundy a while back. Fucking right wingers whine when they don't get free money for nothing and have to pay for the externalities their actions create.
  
  Why is meat so much cheaper here in east asia anyway? I can get tenderloin for ~6USD/lb.

I mean, because the left and center are concerned more with the collapse of democracy and the rule of law and the right wants all brown people to die.
- Killing all the brown people was how we were supposed to get cheap eggs. The brown people were making our eggs expensive so we had to spend $600M on an Everglades concentration camp
  
  I mean, the eggs are cheap again so I guess it worked?

Same reason the clown is elected twice in the first place, the media in this country is completely irresponsible and run by profit driven assholes with zero ethics, a major problem in everywhere.

Because it’s worth it seems the likely answer.
racism, genocide, anti-science, anti-LGBTQ+, anti-health, trickle-up billionaires, misogyny, state religion, and more.
- A bargain (for shitheads) at twice the price!
- I think it’s less about ‘worth it’ and more about how mainstream right wing propaganda news networks assign opinions to their viewers. If their media isn’t talking about it, they don’t care. (Epstein files notwithstanding.)
- I find it interesting you put the asterisk on the first it whereas i would have put it on the second. I wonder why that is!
  
  The asterisk is for the footnote from "it's**". In other words, the asterisk is for the entire line.

What's crazy is that ground beef is practically a waste product. You can get it for under $4/lb in Houston. Hell, come by certain grocery stores at the end of the day and they're trashing buckets of it.
$6.12 for something that's filling up garbage cans and landfills to the tune of 429.2 million lbs in 2022 alone? Seems like Americans are getting price gouged.
- 536,000 cows, forced to sit in their own shit for 18 months just to be unceremoniously slaughtered and thrown right in the trash, like some fucked up torture treadmill
  
  like some fucked up torture treadmill
  Welcome to industrial animal agriculture. I stopped eating animal products 7 years ago. My only regret is not making this change earlier.
  And before someone says "just buy from small local farms": I live in an urban area. Unless I burn gas driving all over fuck, the industrial animal ag products are what is in the stores. Easier for me to just go plant-based.
- It really is incredible how much land is used, pollution created, and environmental devastation caused to create more waste for landfills, furthering the aforementioned problems. Meanwhile, folks starve next door and around the globe. Coming down from the trees was a terrible decision.
- That's capitalism for ya
- Steak mince vs ground beef are different things.
  One is basically offal, the other could have been a steak. Unless they're using the term incorrectly, the price should be different.

They are just too busy winning all the time.

We still are.
- True, but the news is freaking out about it a lot less, and spending a lot less time interviewing people about what percent of them might feel like it's personally the president's fault and he should definitely lose the next election because of it because people are hurting right now and he doesn't care.
  It is, as the man said, notable. In fact it seems like they've totally moved on from feeling like inflation is an important issue to pay close attention to and freak out about.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5mlx_DnIEo
- We are also exhausted by all the other things we’re supposed to be apoplectic about.

only the news stopped talking about prices
- Or to put that another way, the Trump fans are not being told to freak out about this. They only freak out when their masters instruct them to.

Because media focus shifted. People will be mad with what the media tells them to be mad at.

People need to just stop buying what is not absolutely necessary. They will suffer a curious side effect: Weight loss, lower sugar, blood pressure and cholesterol. Maybe that will force producers to call on their orange god to quit his grifting. Who oversees the tariff tax in the External Revenue Service?
- I'm down 25 lbs not drinking or eating processed food
- The carnie mind does not comprehend eating anything but meat

Is it because they are talking about Epstein? No? That's weird.

ap•o•plec•tic | ,apa'plektik|
adjective informal
overcome with anger; extremely indignant: Last year, tons of people were apoplectic about food prices.

gov controller media strikes again

I hear about high food prices all the time, it's like 50% of what people complain about

Do anyone still remember the drama with egg prices? Or is it just me?

Go vegan 💚
- When plant meat is at the same price or cheaper, I will.
  I've already worked out most of my recipes to use it.
  
  Yeah animals suffer, but 50 cents are 50 cents.
  
  Or just don't eat meat and choose one of the plenty alternatives that's not faux-meat

the absolutely wild thing about this is that australia is/was also complaining about a cost of living crisis, and our food is $ for $ roughly the same… as in our numeric value for food is the same - despite our currency being worth about 2/3 as much
this doesn’t mean that australia has our cost of living crisis easy… it means that americas food prices are ultra fucked
https://links.coles.com.au/hRXTKkT7aVb
Coles No Added Hormone Beef 3 Star Regular Mince: $7/500g (1lb ~= 450g)
(at time of writing, that beef in the photo costs about $10AUD/500g, or our beef mince costs $4.50USD)
- Noticed a similar thing going between Canadian and US grocery stores. Roughly the same numerical cost, but with the difference in price exchange rates it is far cheaper on the Canadian side. Also, high fructose corn syrup isn’t at the top of every single ingredient list.

because everyone knows and feels the slowly rising over-inflation, but there are far more pressing problems that need to be addressed

In part because people got used to those prices rising. But mostly because the media couldn't generate clicks discussing it anymore.

Possibly because you are a Xitter user, where 90% of the user base is bots.

Oh, man. I haven't thought about Ramit in years. He used to do a blog called "I will teach you to be rich" or something like that.
Surprised he's not a Trump voter, to be honest.

i miss when the cost of eggs was our biggest concern
- I could sell you some eggs for 100% markup so you can relive that memory.
- https://youtu.be/wyo1u9WxUG4

Whilst I am profoundly disconcerted by the egregiously inflationary trajectory of alimentary commodification, my consternation is exponentially exacerbated by the preposterous proclivity of certain individuals to gratuitously employ grandiloquent and recondite verbiage in a transparently ostentatious endeavor to simulate intellectual superiority.
- ....are you seriously complaining like this about the use of the word 'apopleptic'? It was one word, dude, let it go.

the average amount of red meat consumed a day on the earth per person is something like 2.2 ounces.
seems like the price isn't high enough to make Americans recognize how a 1/4 pounder is twice that average in one item.
- Yeah that's dumb... Not everyone eats red meat everyday... Maybe try finding out how much someone eats during a meal on average... And how many people per day .. That's more informative...
  
  I know, what a poor use of statistics. Most people play tennis for under 30 seconds/day so playing for 30 mins is an outrageous use of time.

What is Fox talking about?

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