Montreal says it will fine church after ‘MAGA superstar’ concert goes ahead without permit
Montreal says it will fine church after ‘MAGA superstar’ concert goes ahead without permit
Rather than being happy that happen I think we should look at the situation. And how bad it is that we need a permit for literally everything. Rather than just renting some place and running your event. I don't think people would be rejoicing if rather than MAGA it was some LGBTQ event being fined.
While it wouldn't be as notable if it was an LGBTQ thing it'd be just as stupid. Do you know why permits are often required for concerts nowadays? The reason is rather simple, indoor concert venues kept burning to the fucking ground and people kept dying. Usually the way it went is that a building rated for like 200 people would go over capacity to 300 or 400 then the fire started no one could get out and then folks died because building ratings often times reflect physical limitations in certain things like how fast a certain number of people can get out of the building.
Outdoor venues have permit requirements because of dehydration and literal shit shows as latrine ditches overflowed. Outdoor venues tend to be less deadly more raw sewage.
Well, pretty much knew it was coming. The city will DEFINITELY lose this case...
NEWS RELEASE Montreal church fined for worship service; TDF takes on legal defence
The Democracy Fund defends Ministerios Restauración after police interruption and protesters attempt to shut down Christian service attended by U.S. artist Sean Feucht.
Montreal — The Democracy Fund has stepped in to represent Ministerios Restauración/Église MR - the Montreal church at which US-based artist Sean Feucht worshipped on July 25, 2025.
Ministerios Restauracion Church was issued a ticket with a fine in the amount of $2,500 for engaging in Christian worship at a Friday service. Video shows police entering the Church before or during the worship service. Later, protesters attempted to forcefully shut it down.
Feucht, a Christian musician and activist known for leading large outdoor worship events across the U.S., was in Montreal as part of a Canadian visit. His presence drew criticism from local activist groups. Officials accused the Church of violating municipal bylaws related to event permits or zoning. However, no such regulations prohibit regular worship gatherings.
TDF litigation director, Mark Joseph, said: "Freedom of religion is a fundamental freedom under s.2(a) of the Charter: you do not need permission or a permit from the government to worship at a church in Canada. It is absurd to suggest otherwise, and it risks setting a dangerous precedent that will extend to all religions. TDF and its lawyers intend to fight this matter and are eager to respond to this obvious Charter infringement in court."
issued a ticket with a fine in the amount of $2,500 for engaging in Christian worship at a Friday service
This is not true at all.
This was not a regular Friday service. This was a special music concert. In Montreal, per the bylaws "Events with 50 to 3,000 people in attendance require prior authorization." They also recommend submitting the application 90 days in advance.
They wanted to have a show, only planned a few days in advance, they didn't have permits, the city said no and if they continue they would get fined. They continued, they got fined.
I don't see what the problem is here.
This has nothing to do with religion. The same thing would have happened if fucking U2 wanted to play a coffee shop with 60 seat capacity with a day or two notice. The entire point of getting authorization with 90 days notice is so you don't have pop-up concerts happening around the city at venues that aren't adequate and might cause things like traffic and parking problems.
Having said that, this is perfect for Christians and this MAGA cuntface. They love playing the role of someone being terribly persecuted. They don't follow the rules then cry giant baby Jesus tears when presented with consequences.
The MAGA dude sees this whole thing as a win because he gets free press, gets to hop on his huge travelling cross and sob to his cult, and you know for a FACT he isn't the one stuck with the fine. The church is.
Its going to come down to whether this was a special 'concert' organized by Mr Feucht or whether the congregation, hearing that Mr Feucht was denied the chance to play at this previously planned venue, then invited to join them for their worship service as a guest musician.
It appears to be the latter as the press release is worded "protesters attempt to shut down Christian service attended by U.S. artist Sean Feucht" All it would take is for someone in the church leadership to testify, 'Yes we invited him to come play at our service' and its not a concert, he's a guest musician at a worship service and you dont need a permit for that.
Either way the city is going to lose because they shut him down on a pretense but the real motivation was action by local activist groups, and that won't fly in court as a legal reason to silence him. This is still Canada, we dont shut people down because some people dont like their message. We dont even shut down a public protests where the leader uses a bullhorn to scream "Death to Canada!" so Im pretty sure Mr Feucht's worship songs to what sounds like a very small group of people, will pass the legal test.
Gaslight much? Reality's tough, I know, but give it a try once in a while.
Thats a press release from the legal department of The Democracy Fund. What part is gaslighting?
Remove all church's tax free status - that grift will probably never die but it's time to stop letting them avoid taxes at least.
I am not a Christian but church run on donations and are not a business for profit and all and they even help the poor by clothing them and giving them food. Same for mosque and some other places of worship. I think taxes would just hurt them and the people they help.
I wouldn't go that far.
But audit them.and make sure they're actually doing tax-exempt stuff, and be ruthless about removing the tax-exempt status of churches that violate the law.
If they want to do charitable work, they can register as a regular charity and follow the same rules as everyone.
Outside of that, churches are just a regular business.
If it were up to me, I'd demolish that church.
This douche just tried to play a public park in PEI and some local goofballs decided to have a counter protest in the form of a vuvuzela party. Same time. Same day. Same place.
After that the city decided it might be best to pull the permit. He ended up playing in a backwoods church to a handful of regular church members.
Then he tried to play in Moncton and the city pulled their permit. The only other place he could play on such short notice was a church in the woods 2 hours away. I think 20 people showed up.
His entire tour is a hilarious failure.
He did the same in Halifax, tried to play, permit got pulled, performed at a crappy church instead
In Jesus' name
Was just about to say, the dude in the picture looks like literally every single douchy christian rock singer ever.
Literally this. Outfit, pose, everything.
There's also an extremely high chance he has lyrics that are similar.
You know the cult is dangerously close to completely replacing Christianity when they try to usurp Andrew Lloyd Webber.
There's no way that will withstand the court case thats coming. It was a worship service. They were singing songs, not talking about US political viewpoints. The press is making a mountain out of a molehill for the clicks but there's no way anyone needs a permit to sing songs in a church. Just yellow journalism.
To quote someone else on this: "He is not forcing the stop to alternate relationships, he is not forcing the take over of Canada. He is expressing his beliefs like the LGBT community express their beliefs during Pride Parades." Or Black Lives Matter believing stopping traffic and forcing stores to close will support their cause. Hell, we didnt even stop the pro Palestian protester who was screaming "Death to Canada!" We don't stop those people, so why should anyone think we should stop this guy?
Just because somebody says something I find disagreeable is not a justification for silencing that person. I can argue with them, I could ignore them, I can encourage people to have nothing to do with them, but I don't have a right to silence them. This is Canada, we still support free speech. Unless of course you belong to a certain minority group that would rather throw smoke bombs in churches in an act of hatred while hypocritically proclaiming that they are protesting hatred. Pretty pathetic.
there’s no way anyone needs a permit to sing songs in a church
Sorry. In this case you're wrong.
This wasn't a regular service, with the regular church patrons, and the regular hymn book. This was a special musical concert, from a guy on a musical tour of Canada.
At this point the church is no longer a church but a rented hall for the purpose of holding a musical concert.
In Montreal, you need a permit for that AND the city recommends you submit your application 90 days in advance of the concert date - which they did not do.
Unless of course you belong to a certain minority group that would rather throw smoke bombs in churches in an act of hatred while hypocritically proclaiming that they are protesting hatred.
Hopefully we see more of that, bigotry and retrograde-minded religious doctrines that diminishes the rights of others because of their gender or sexual orientation are not welcome in Canada. And free speech is not without limits.
You’re probably a bot based on account age, username, and post history, but if you do “LoveCanada” perhaps you should love your fellow humans instead of supporting hate speech. Also please familiarize yourself with Canadian law regarding speech and protected groups. This is not the US.
I don't want some hateful wolf in sheep's clothing to perform here but dammit, what you say is true.
Guessing the fine wasn't enough to stop the terrorist message from getting out. Cost of doing business I guess.
Do what they would want done to that drag concert. Rush in and arrest them in the middle of the concert. After all I'm pretty sure its do unto other as they would do unto you.