There is a federation problem on Programming.dev
There is a federation problem on Programming.dev
This is a photo of how I see my post on programming. Dev instance.
This is how I see my post from my alt account on Reddthat.
There is a federation problem on Programming.dev
This is a photo of how I see my post on programming. Dev instance.
This is how I see my post from my alt account on Reddthat.
What's going on? Why does this offtopic comment have 14 upvotes and no upvotes?
EDIT: Dead internet theory here in full force. This post is about Lemmy. The only thing that has to do with Substack is the example post that OP highlighted to demonstrate issues with Lemmy federation. And yet the top comment (and replies to my comment) is going on as if this post is about Substack, almost as if it was written by a technology that cannot understand context.
IDK, missing (or deliberately ignoring) context is also a deeply human issue. Don't act like you captcha-pressers are any better than us in that matter.
There's a good bit of fake voting on Lemmy, but after a quick glance at the votes I don't think this is that, I think it's just people legitimately believing the narrative that "Substack = Nazis" and upvoting it because they believe in it.
This is of a piece with "Mamdani isn't left wing enough for me" / "AOC supports genocide" / "Bernie is a Zionist" kind of glib one-liner reasons why left-wing people need to stop supporting left-wing things, because they're not really virtuous enough, and so we need to abandon them in pursuit of some kind of imaginary virtue solution instead of just having unity.
TL;DR: They took some funding from Marc Andreessen long ago, they were willing to give blogs to everyone including Nazis (bc free speech) and the whole internet yelled at them, so they caved and removed the Nazis. IDK how this particular push notification happened, but I would bet that the blog will be removed. They are not wholly ideologically pure, I think Richard Spenser is the worst person they willingly host and he's pretty bad, but they don't allow Nazis anymore specifically because of the hue and cry it raised up the first time.
More conversation about it here, I don't have the patience right now to write up a full explanation. TL;DR someone who's panicked at you about the Substack Nazi problem is listening to something that's mostly designed to hurt a mostly left-wing platform.
Your link is to your older comments, and claims they "kicked out the nazis" they had on their platform. So the nazis are all gone, huh?
Their systems just pushed a very racist notification from the nazis currently on their platform to users. The article also points out that one of the other nazis accounts is being pushed algorithmically to users via substacks "rising" tab, with the nazi account currently at number 46. That's seperate from their "oops, all nazis" notifications issue. How is substack not a nazi platform when its still promoting and platforming nazis?
Also, they just took more funding from Marc Andeerssen in their most recent $100 million funding round 13 days ago, so your TL;DR is also all fucked up.
Honestly, thanks for updating my knowledge.
For me personally, the A16Z investment is a much bigger issue than the Nazi blogs. From my perspective, it means the management is comfortable working with criminals (pump and dump and pyramid schemes haven't yet been made legal in the US, have they?).
Performative claims of support for "free speech" is pretty standard stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a part of the go-to-market strategy (it would be funny if they created the Nazis blog themselves to stir things up).
A nuanced take in response to casually lobbed accusations of Nazism? How come you haven't been banned?
Ah man.
What is the solution here?
I don't know what it is about me or who I follow but I don't seem to get Nazi push notifications in any of my socials or on substack or on YouTube. I wonder why that is 🧐?
What's the difference or issue here?
The upvotes and the comments doesn't reach programming. Dev
Seems the master race still hasn't mastered spelling