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Because paying a few grand a year for a certificate somehow makes your software more trustworthy
157The original Twitter checkmark
53Well it at least is an obstacle. Broke hackers won't get it or will have to work harder to get around it.
21That's the intention. In reality lots of genuine devs can't afford it, so people get accustomed to just ignore the whole thing.
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Even more lols when you are gigabyte and your private key leaks. Also when you are gigabyte and your signed driver is used to privilege escalate malware.
10And you can still bypass it if you put your software in a .zip
7And that’s why certificates can be revoked, that’s the whole point, trust. It only costs a few hundred a year per Microsoft’s documentation and approved vendors so it doesn’t seem that much of an ask. At the very least you can look up the developer yourself, harder to do if the package has no identity associated with it
4Gigabyte has entered the chat.
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Linux: OK
User: Oh great, I downloaded a virus
Linux: Lol. You should have read the 2000-line python script on github before running it.
82Actually there's extensive documentation on the arch wiki regarding this specific line of code burried 1673 lines deep.
I suggest you read the documentation before you ask irrelevant and, might I add, embarrassing questions.
53It is your fault always.
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I wrote some open source software and looked into how to make that not happen. It’s not easy on Microsoft, and on Apple it costs more than a $100/year!
68you have to pay to have your stuff put on the app store??
38Yes, on both platforms.
41Not only that; You have to pay for updates too. Supposedly it’s because Apple takes time to verify that the app is legit and not going to do nefarious things. So they don’t want a bad actor to get a legit app on the store, then later push an update that infects everyone with a virus.
But apparently a company did a study and realized that app testing rarely made it past the main page, with testers spending ~15-20 seconds per app. They’d basically open it and if it looked like it did what it said, they didn’t bother digging any deeper.
37Why do you think they set those up? To not make money?
15Yes. It's actually rather tragic I strive to run my business NOT using big tech. But we need an app for our users. On Apple this means you simply MUST pay apple. 100/year is not a lot. I just don't want to give them my business.
8You have to pay for a license to be able to publish apps to the store, yes. This isn't a bad thing, mainly just for the fact that it stops a lot of trash from being put on there.
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Yeah we are an open source org and simply don't sign the executables because of this bullshit
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I can navigate Windows well enough for my job, but I'd never choose it for personal use. I'm no Linux expert, but I haven't yet been faced with a problem I couldn't solve.
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13I think your problem is you are using a niche Arch derivative that has a small user base. You should definitely consider using more mainstream distros so you can easily find the help you need until you are comfortable and feel confident with using Linux.
20I'd use a mainstream distro. I came to Linux in 2017, used Ubuntu for 4 years until I got tired of them forcing snaps down my throat, and then went to Arch. I have never distro-hopped, but I also have never had any huge issues with the mainstream distros.
The main distros really are well maintained and do tend to "just work". Dare I say, especially Ubuntu.
11Maybe try endeavorOS?
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I'm the exact opposite! Use Windows for personal use, and use Linux for my VMs/Servers/Docker.
13I was taught to use Ubuntu Linux by a middle aged engineer in another field who demanded "the brown operating system" on his computer over a decade ago, so yes, I agree, day to day Linux hasn't been hard for over a decade.
3I can navigate Windows well enough for my job, but I’d never choose it for personal use.
😂 What exactly is hard to "navigate" about windows for personal use? (or professional use for that matter)
-5Didn't say it was hard. To be clear...by saying "well enough," I mean that I don't have any major problems with it...I'm just no expert. I find that there are two many pointless "utilities" that only slow the machine down. Both of my last two (brand new) computers have had both Windows and Ubuntu installed before adding anything else. There's actually still nothing on the Windows partitions, but whenever I switch to it, it's like switching from a car to a bicycle. It's ridiculous how Windows can be so, so slow "right out of the box," while Ubuntu just works.
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This will be outdated soon.
They basically admitted at a security conference (I think) that part of the roadmap for Windows 11 is to actually prevent Windows from running unsigned apps period, and you better believe getting past that will require an Enterprise license.
30Mac os when u don't pay 99$ a year to apple to sign the app
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Mac does it now too. But they do it because they are anti-competitive and want to make you use the Mac app Store. They need to be broken up.
13No.
It's a security feature. Right click, select open, affirm that you meant to run the thing, then it works. This needs to be done once for that app.
You can disable this behavior too.
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Let's make it clear. The only virus on a PC is its owner. It never emerges on itself
11Worm Virus enters the chat
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Actually this is a good practice. If you don't know where the program is or if the source is not open, you shouldn't install blindly.
3iOS watching this...
1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatekeeper_(macOS)
They're not new to this
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