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U.S. vets ask Florida governor to end death penalty for military vets - UPI.com

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Had no idea of the high proportion of military veterans on Florida's death row.

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How about end then death penalty entirely. Just because you existed in the military doesn't make you better than anyone else.
- Given the prevalence of CTE in military veterans it’s plausible that many of them are ending up on death row due to their service.
  
  It seems like commuting the sentence to LWOP on medical grounds would be more sensible in such cases. A non-military person with CTE should be treated similarly.
- It does, to the average Floridian and to Ron DeSantis.
  Advocating for veterans is one of few things that has the chance of appealing to Republicans.
  I'd argue that saving some people from the death penalty is better than saving none at all. It will open the door in the future to fully ending the death penalty.
- True, but baby steps maybe?
  Get this concession, then use it to dismantle the rest.
- I agree with this
“hey kid wanna join? new benefits include no death penalty. good for when after a decade of service to capitalist owners you can no longer reconcile with being a war criminal and decide it’s best you snap and shoot up a place.”
JFC what was your unit like!?
There were shitty people sure, but it seemed to match the same percentages as everywhere else.
I will say this. The military taught me that every color/gender has a similar distribution of people who are solid and people who I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
The worst ones absolutely were white officers. (But some of the best were too.)
The worst fucking enlisted leader I ever had was a skinny black Master Chief that said some of the stupidest shit. He didn't believe in building up your people through mentorship and just shit on everyone.
He did some dumb but hilarious shit though. One time a pair of sailors violated DADT so they could leave (Claimed.they were gay). He said, "Sure, but prove it. Let me see you kiss. Have you ever had your ass penetrated? What does cum taste like?" They both turned beat red and admitted they weren't gay.
I thought it was hilarious at first, but then very disturbed when I realized they were fucking trapped in this job. And how really fucking inappropriate he was.
But I did learn some important things.
Of the enlisted, all the shit bags came from shitty backgrounds which taught me that your family and environment have a huge say in how you turn out.
That made me realize that systemic racism and poverty go hand in hand and blacks have been fucked from the beginning.
That and you get out of it what you put into it. Embrace the suck, make some friends, and you will have amazing and cool experiences you could never have anywhere else.
They want to end the death penalty because so many of them are violent criminals.
I want to end the death penalty because I don't agree with the morality of it.
We are not the same.
- As I agree that the hero worship is a little much that's about it. There is a whole bunch you are saying that just makes you look pretty salty about the military, and you're saying some inaccurate stuff.
  What happened to you private? Did you receive 4 UCMJ's and dishonorable on the way out and blame everyone but yourself?
Boo fucking hoo. No sympathy for the war machine.
I'm not saying there are second class citizens in Florida, but Military and Vets are definitely first class citizens.

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