Team Trump Is Actually Drawing Up Attack Plans for Mexico
Team Trump Is Actually Drawing Up Attack Plans for Mexico
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Team Trump Is Actually Drawing Up Attack Plans for Mexico
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Oh, well thats nice of them, I guess. Who is Mexico attacking?
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Ah, roght out of Isreals play book, invade a country on the basis of eliminating terrorists/gangs
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Ehm... the US doesn't need to use someone's else's copy of the book they wrote.
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Pretty much every nation with an army has attack plans against its' neighbours, just in case. Actually using them, of course, is quite another thing. Unless you need to be really on your toes because of an unpredictable, aggressive and vicious southern neighbour like -not to name anyone- Austria.
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When current news gives you flashbacks to the Cyberpunk 2077 lore. The names and dates are different but the trends and events match enough to give the uncanny feeling. Agencies in the streets being deployed, USA in trade war losing irrelevance, going for the Central American war and then losing. By the way, that's why cybernetic limbs got so good, they needed them to patch up the soldiers from that war.
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Anything to distract from the Epstein files.
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Are those similar to the Trump-Epstein files?
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What files? Asking for a friend ✝️
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drawing up
Doesn't DoD have detailed attack plans for every nation already?
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Yes but this is a bad headline. The article is about specifically using US military to attack cartels, which the Trump administration has already made legal for themselves by recategorizing them as terrorists.
It is still a violation of both international law and common sense.
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I imagine most militaries have contingency plans against enemies and allies ready to go. Wouldn't be much of a defensive force without them. (I know that the US is not a defensive force. I live here. We will 100% take over your country for borderline no reason.)
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Yes.
Well, not necessarily detailed. Like I'm sure the plan for an invasion of Uruguay is basically nonexistent, while one for war with China is comprehensive.
Plans for a zombie apocalypse have also been created at least once as an exercise. It's good practice for an emergency situation.
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Doesn’t DoD have detailed attack plans for every nation already?
Yep. I would be more surprised if there wasn't an attack plan for any country with more than 5m people.
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The US isn’t ready for a two front war where the whole world wants to get rid of them. They don’t have the cards.
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Please... I'm not a big fan of the US right now either. But that is just an absurd claim. No one is going to willingly open up a front against the US.
Like it or not, but they absolutely have the cards.
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That's wrong, the US can eat a couple of countries just fine. The efficiency is atrocious, but the sheer inherited strategic power and logistics and stockpiles, and the amount of funding allowing to, say, build drones analogous to Russian "Geran" 100x times more expensive in the same amounts as Russia does, - all these make many wars a certain victory in the sense of destroying the other side's forces and possibly civilian population.
Anyway. Two things.
1 - In his previous term there was squeal from all sides how he's going to institute fascism right now. "The boy who cried wolves" may be a valid analogy or it may not. I think before anything like this the US will have an open change of the regime. At the same time - it's very convenient to have the land border with other countries very narrow, when instituting totalitarianism (resistance fighters, people trying to flee, all kinds of stuff), so possibly eating Mexico and Canada and doing a regime change after that is good enough.
2 - Perhaps any kind of a war is easier done after, suppose, an economic crisis happens. AI bubble burst, or something like that.
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A war with Mexico would be disastrous. Yes the US military and military industrial complex is much larger but Mexico is a huge country in land and population that has a much larger and diverse economy than Iraq and Afghanistan. They have a large population of people with engineering education and a large population of those employed in manufacturing. Mexico doesn't have an incredibly huge domestic arms industry but it exists and what they do have is a huge manufacturing industry that I'm certain they would be able to take advantage of to churn out anything that can be used for war.
The loss of the US to Mexican manufacturing would mean significantly higher inflation and a huge increase to national debt that would also contribute to an eventual increase in inflation. Long term it would also mean Mexico joins the arms race for at least ground armies and missiles. Mexico does have a strong and growing tech sector. Mexico does not have a large military because they have not needed one. The only theoretical threat would be the US but that hasn't been threatened in a very long time. A US invasion would motivate Mexico to being the regions South Korea but possibly much larger long term. Domestic resources and highly educated people and amount of people for active and reserve forces
The north is a lot more sparsely populated but I'd expect that to be where things trap out at with constant insurgency across the southwestern united states and northern mexico. War with either Mexico or Canada would destabilize the US domestically but Mexico probably far worse. By the time a sufficiently sized invasion force for the US military made it to southern mexico, bridges and cities would be boobytrapped and fortified to hell.
I'd question what every other country south of the US would do. Not active participant but proxy to ship arms from Russia, China, North Korea, Iran to Mexico now that international sanctions would not matter to Mexico. I doubt Brazil would be happy. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the opportunity to grow their domestic arms industry and see their missiles in action and gain data. See a huge return of Brazil to the international arms market. Progressively send out their old stockpile to make way for their ongoing modernization efforts.
US economic and stockpile disaster in a time when one of the largest concerns is how bad the acquisition and production levels are for militaries in the US and western europe. How old and regularly in maintenance and need for replacement large naval ships. How expensive the missiles shot out of missile defense systems are. The maintenance needs that will be needed from the stress placed on actively fought against naval vessels and aircraft
Just as problematic is what this would mean for US military acquisition and development. It would shift back to ground forces when the US wants to focus on Navy and air. Disaster for the US and allies in the Pacific. Attacking Mexico would long term make the cost of maintaining the ground and air army just domestically much more expensive. It'd have to be larger now with a strong enemy with a huge shared land and maritime border. Plus how Brazil can benefit from a US-Mexico war. Alliances that can form in defense against a crazy US that's gone back to cold war and earlier meddling in Latin America.
What would happen is early US war effort makes huge gains. Stockpile of missiles drop to levels where legal mandates of required stockpile levels near or are breached. Military ends up in a legal and logistical back and forth of can they fire more and why can't we build missiles as fast as Russia and China. US populace unrest would make anti-Vietnam war protest look small. Riots would make post-MLK assassination look small. Mexico rapidly develops production for small cheap explosives and drones and develops international strategies to have international arms make it to Mexico. Brazil quickly ascends back to being a major international arms dealer. The US eventually has to withdraw from Mexico because of the cost of war and occupation of Mexico and domestic unrest
US military now has to primarily focus on the Americas rather than the Pacific, eastern Europe, and the Middle East because Mexico and Brazil are now hypercharged more than anytime in history to compete with the US. Their populations motivated. Mexico eventually joins BRICS. Major implications all over the world as the US just post-WW2 France and UK'ed themselves where those two trying to reassert their international empires without the US and failed by the 60s and took positions as US vassals. US wouldn't become a vassal of any, but it'd have to pull back internationally majorly
Even a short attack and retreat like Iran would force a shift to domestic army instead of overseas. Mexico would instantly bump up their military expenses up to higher single digit percentages of the countries GDP and go on an acquisition spree while building up domestic arms industry
Americans would face high inflation, austerity, possibly high unemployment as hostility to American products and services increases. Another major decline in tourism. Huge cost of military benefits pay for anyone that was deployed to the active war zone, injured, survivor benefits, or just recruited to shore up needs domestically while maintaining overseas personnel. The US conservatives would have a marketing win but the whole of the US an international strength and influence loss. American people lose.
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He's trying to imitate Putin. Probably go about as well as it has for Putin as well.
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...Putin is about to walk away with 20% of Ukraine
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They went from Ukraine being a Russian vassal state to a prospective NATO/EU member with 80% of their territory intact. What's their next move, invade Belarus and end up half of that become an EU member too?
That said, Putin has not walked away with 20% of anything just yet.
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And all of Alaska of course
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Why? What's even the end goal? A war to stay in office maybe?
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Martial Law is definitely on his wishlist.
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If this was a competent president. I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt.
But we all know Trump only cares about one thing. And it's not the US. It's himself.
He may very well be under the impression that it will somehow give him more time in office, or it's just some way for him to try and get better approval rating. How he is percieved by the US is of major importance to his ego.
He hates how his approval is lower than Obamas. And he probably hates how his approval is lower than G.W.Busch.
G.W.Busch had an approval rating of around ~60%. Then a certain incident happened and his approval went to as high as 92% at a certain time.
Trump might, for some reason. Think that him starting/provoking a war will give him a similar boost.
Ofc to you and me it sounds insane and we know that's not going to improve his rating. But we are reasonable, normal people with common sense.
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if and when he feels like it
I hate that this is an actionable threat.
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US - China proxy war of attrition coming or nah? Americans finally understanding the horrors of war might push their society into positive change...
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That’s a funny joke.
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There's a lot of countries that are sick of china's shit, I think the US would actually have a lot of support in a proxy war.
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My man, Trump just fucked that up. Japan started to deal with China because of Trump.
The US is alone.
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Correction - there was a lot of contries that were sick of China's shit. That was until Trump returned and started fucking with global economy and nuclear safety.
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? Username appropriate, I guess, lol.
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They're not really though or else we wouldn't hear about it until invasion day. It's more of his art of the deal bullshit
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Do you really think Trump would keep ihis mouth shut in favor of tactics? Have you even seen him talk?
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Guess a lot of trump supporters on this sub, judging by the downvotes :( I'm trying to say it's just Trump playing chicken again, trying to intimidate Mexico into doing something for him
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nah its just a distraction from the Epstein Files. nothing will really happen with these war plans
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Don't ever underestimate Trump's stupidity.
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