The democrats are controlled opposition.

They're no opposition at all. They're an organisation of and for the ruling class.

I mean, it's a big party and there's a lot of different members with a lot of different takes that exist on a wide spectrum.
But we watched politicians like AOC and Warren get chewed up. And we watched politicians like Cori Bush and Jamal Bowman get spat out. We're watching the folks who were crying "Our Party Needs To Win More Young Men To Beat Donald Trump" turn and piss all over Zohran Mamdani, a candidate who has been absolutely magnetic to anti-Trump young men.
There's a real contradiction between the folks voting Team Blue and the folks claiming to represent those voters. Until that contradiction is reconciled, there can't be a united front against fascism.
- vote blue no matyer who!
  Until lefty slips through a primary. Then the machine backs literally anyone else.
- There can be no united front with any liberals. They will use the first opportunity they get to betray any such united front and help the fascists out. Please learn that from history, we need not repeat it.
  No liberal organisation is in our best interest. The only thing that helps against fascism are left organisations, extra-parliamentary opposition and extra-legal action.
I agree. There's hardly any difference between them and the party of child raping traitors that literally take money from our enemies and then use our tax dollars to actively kill US citizens
- I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not XD
  Dems also take money from our enemies, they vote in favor of sending our allies weapons to kill innocent people, there are a lot of dems on the Epstein flight logs
- You can apply the exact same to them. Blue Magats gotta stop idolizing democrats, just because Trump is worse doesn't mean they're good.
- Bothside got pedos, GOP just has more.
- Ah so it's OK if the Democrats do it to other people that are worth less, like brown people or non-USAian citizens?
  You seem to only be concerned for the "betrayal", which is only a miniscule fraction of what your reactionary government (regardless of ruling party) has done to the world.
- One side enables them.
- Yes. That does describe both of them fairly well.

DNC would rather have Trump elected than Bernie...

Never forgot how this shit started.

DNC komisasars view the democratic voter as cattle they own.

Sadly most of them accept it 🤡

people don't want to take personal responsibility for the policies their vote helps enact. they would rather just turn off and do whatever the DNC tells them to, because then it's not their fault that democrats are actively working to kill innocent kids in Gaza.
and if you didn't vote? well don't you know trump wants to kill the kids faster? better that the instead be killed slower by dems, it's more humane.

Voting in our system is like choosing the boss for the final boss fight. So yeah, if you're in a place where your vote could make a difference, vote Dem, but never stop raising hell.

You should vote dem and organize a real non-dem opposition, be it a third party or by getting people organized.

True, I'm not opposed to people voting dem, if i were in america I would do it myself, but so many people just vote, and don't do any organising afterwards.
You should vote dem
Okay, but two questions:
Is Eric Adams a Democrat?
Should I have voted for him 2021?
Skip straight to voting justice for all party if you aren't in a contested district like 87% of Americans.
- Fair enough for the presidential, but it gets a lot muckier with Congressional and local elections. The sentiment is correct, though.

If I could push the Dems at all I’d push most of them off a cliff.

They are the more culturally liberal of the two Wall Street parties, essentially the "good" mobster to the Republican "bad" mobster á la "Vote for me and I'll try not to make things worse – for now. Or do you want my friend elephant over there to beat you up?"

(Of course they are lying, they are just far more gradual and self-cucking in their reaction)

They are the liberals covering for and collaborating with fascists. They have no issue with concentration border caps and with the pillage, rape and destruction of societies infinitely more valuable and cultured than theirs.
Just put some rainbow and BLM stickers on those bombers and border patrol trucks and everything is good and civilised again; they are the ones that protect you from "the backward barbarians" after all.
But when all that reactionary violence is funnelled inwards as well, when they loose their imperial privilige, they start to whine about "the downfall of our civilisation".

It disgusts me with such deep disdain, because they are just the keepers of capitalism, holding it nice and warm for as long as they can, until the ruling class requires the backup of fascism to "bring order" back into the world and upon the working class; just so that the cycle can begin again and again and again...

(and also two side rants:

Henry Ford was given the highest award a foreigner could get in fascist Germany, by Hitler himself mind you
There is nothing inherently progressive about being "LGBTQ+", you are not subversive, you are not "bringing society forward". You are reinforcing capitalism by making it more inclusive, you are just another consumer target group that will be disposed of once you become undesirable for the capitalists (so the fascists can have one more "common enemy" to rally against e.g.)

From an older comment of mine:

To quote Malcolm X:
The white liberal is the most dangerous thing in the entire wester hemisphere. He is the most deceitful, he’s like a fox. And a fox is always more dangerous in the forest than the wolf. You can see the wolf coming, you know what he is up to. But the fox will fool you. He comes at you with his mouth shaped in such a way, that even though you see his teeth, you think he is smiling.
All their supposed progress and opposition to capital only reinforces and propels capitalism, alleviating the need for fascism just for a little longer (which arises for the ruling classes when the majority of the population grows disillusioned with their lies, be they conservative or “progressive”). In the end only legitimizing the underlying framework (capitalism), without ever threatening it.
TL;DR: scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds

👏more 👏 female 👏 drone 👏 pilots 👏
Just put some rainbow and BLM stickers on those bombers and border patrol trucks and everything is good and civilised again; they are the ones that protect you from "the backward barbarians" after all.
As a wise man once said.
- Not the nuance bomb 💀💀
  (but muh "both sides")
Henry Ford introduced 8/40 hour weeks and forced other car companies to compete

At least with dems nothing changes (like conservatives claim their party is for)

um, i see the overton window going rightward, so no, it’s far worse then stagnation, it’s a slow sinking
At least with dems nothing changes
the problem with "nothing changes" is that it in fact, does change. wages have stagnated for decades and the cost of living keeps rising, and dems won't vote to increase minimum wage. meaning dems are actively making things worse for people by doing nothing. dems could have enshrined abortoin rights in law, they did nothing and now those rights are lost to a portion of the nation, with plans by republicans to make that nationwide.
I could keep going like this for hours, talking about all the things dems have made worse with their "nothing changes" policy, but I think we all get the idea. nothing changes is nothing more than a policy of slowly making things worse.
- I can't expect better than steady decline from modern voters/politicians
- True, I more meant at least things dont get actively worse at the speed they do when mfs like trump are in power
- It's a steady decline tho
The problem with that is people will get annoyed at the stagnation, since things get worse (though the party doesn't actively try to make things worse) people will get frustrated and vote for trump, who promises change.
That's how the dems let trump win.

No, I will do neither and complain on the Internet.

Just think we can stripe down the democratic party and make a leftist party

lefties working together to defeat literal fascism challenge (impossible)

liberals are not leftists.
- Exhibit A:

I will still heavily judge anyone who decided the best, moral action was to not vote.

You can go shove your morals up your ass. You are not some wise guru who has seen the flaws of the system and have risen above it; you are a stupid dipshit whose inaction has made things worse and are too cowardly to admit you may have been just the teeny-tinyest bit completely fucking ignorant on the way the real world works.

They lazy bro. It's an excuse to do nothing.
- To be fair, there are a TON of posts here about not voting because of a moral stance. And because those are all bots or paid Russian assets... you are correct. Just a bunch of lazy idiots.

Sure, by all means let's mock and other the only people trying to oppose active fascism.

yeah? is that what continuing to cross the aisle to vote with republicans is? opposing fascism?
here, we are, complaining on the internet wile the dems play 4d chess by working together with trump to defeat himself. mind fucking blown.
- Well, if you mean specifically senators or something, you should say that. "The Democrats" is most likely voters, but could also be any number of individuals or positions of power.
  Using a general term and then whining like a little bitch about voting across the aisle when you weren't clear in the first place isn't helping you change any minds or impress anyone.

This meme is the exact opposite of how American politics works.

You vote for the candidate that represents you in the primary. If your candidate wins the primary, great. If not, at least they're better than a candidate that is the complete opposite of your positions.

You don't change people after elections. That's not how it works or how it's supposed to work.

And where, in this equation, is the "get progressive policy" part supposed to happen?
- Yeah, this dude doesn't even realize he agrees with the OP. He just doesn't understand that that is OP's while point.
- You vote in the primary. If people don't vote for your candidate, that's not the Democrats fault. That's the fault of Americans.
So no democracy?
- It's representative democracy. Even in Europe you aren't going to find a politicisn that exactly matches you on every policy unless you run for government yourself.
  If you win, everyone, even those that voted for you, will hate you. Because you aren't them.