7h ago

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war

www.theguardian.com

Remember when they claimed that they killed 9000 hamas militant?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-war-goals-unachieved-1.7087509

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3h ago

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war

www.theguardian.com /world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war

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7h ago

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83%

www.theguardian.com /world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war

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7h ago

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83%

www.theguardian.com /world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war

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isreal wants the palestinian civillians to leave the area.
does that happen if isreal is very careful and avoids harming civillians and its pretty safe for civillians even if they stay?
or if the civillians know they risk being horrifically and indiscriminately massacred if they stay?
they get international hate for their actions; they also get what they want.
Note that this means "83% of people killed were civilians", not that 83% of civilians were killed. As the graph in the article illustrates, that puts this neck and neck with other recent genocides:
- 95% civilians of mariupol? Holy fuck
  
  Yes, that's the result of Russia "liberating" a city. I'm surprised Grozny doesn't show up here - enough civilians got away, I guess. The city itself was completely obliterated.
- Notably, Hamas on Oct 7 killed two civilians for every military casualty. By the IDF's own numbers, the IDF are literally greater terrorists than Hamas. Hamas literally does a better job at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF does.
  
  If you qualify military targets the way the IDF does then Hamas killed over 90% military targets on october 7.
- And that’s if we believe the Israelis aren’t lying to cover their genocide.
Sure is a good thing we didn't put those gEnOcIdAl Democrats in office, huh?
- What part of Harris' platform leads you to believe she would have done anything different? Because her entire platform was keeping things the same and advocating for Israel's "right to defend itself". She was just as genocidal as the next candidate.
  
  Trump entered office under a Biden negotiated ceasefire. Trump then told Netenyahu to go ahead and ignore the ceasefire.
- Have some respect for palestinians getting genocidal instead of defending the two cultist parties. Condemn israel instead and keep boycotting it
  
  Like Nougat, I have enough respect and logic to be able to distinguish the Greater from the Lesser Poison for Palestinians in what was a binary choice.
  More frankly: Anyone who espoused couch-sitting and MUh boTH sIdEz false equivalence fallacies are complicit in Israel's genocide because any rational person could see Israel would be more constrained by Democrats, while Bibi and AIPAC obviously preferred Trump and Republicans winning.
  Also, this isn't to mention they're complicit in worsening Russia's attempted genocide in Ukraine.
- This genocide would also be happening if Harris was president, nothing has changed.
  The only difference would be that every Democrat would be supporting the genocide in lock step, rather than what's happening now with Democrats finally speaking out.
  Trump brings out the best in Democrats.
- I thought you didn't care about "[American] partisan politics". Are you suggesting that the genocide is over, because it's not. There's also been a lot going on since May 22.
- Israel did this. Already have cancer.

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