5d ago

Vivaldi takes a stand: keep browsing human

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Vivaldi takes a stand: keep browsing human | Vivaldi Browser

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4d ago

Vivaldi browser makes an official statement against adding AI functionality to their browser

vivaldi.com /blog/keep-exploring/

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5d ago

Vivaldi browser takes a stand: keep browsing human

vivaldi.com /blog/keep-exploring/

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5d ago

Vivaldi takes a stand: keep browsing human

vivaldi.com /blog/keep-exploring/

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tl;dr they're not using AI for obvious reasons
We will not use an LLM to add a chatbot, a summarization solution or a suggestion engine to fill up forms for you, until more rigorous ways to do those things are available.
Vivaldi is the haven for people who still want to explore. We will continue building a browser for curious minds, power users, researchers, and anyone who values autonomy. If AI contributes to that goal without stealing intellectual property, compromising privacy or the open web, we will use it. If it turns people into passive consumers, we will not.
- A position on AI says next to nothing about one's stance on humanity, right?
wish they would change to gecko though
- Even Mozilla doesn’t really want Gecko anymore, that’s why they started Servo.
  
  I don't keep up with any of this stuff, and so it just makes me think of memes like this:
  
  They also abandoned it. It has been picked up by the Linux Foundation though, which is exciting.
  
  What makes you say so?
  They saw potential in Rust for safety and technical guarantees, and started the Servo project. Eventually, they integrated some things into Gecko, and then concluded the Servo project.
  What makes you think they don't want Gecko anymore? What makes you say they started Servo when it's a partially integrated and, more importantly, a concluded project?
  
  Can anybody tell me why no one uses webkit?
  
  doesn't servo get like zero funding now?
Not open source, but apparently not fully closed source either: https://vivaldi.com/source/.
- Opera was bought by a Chinese firm years ago. I'm not saying to use it or not based solely on that; it's just something to keep in mind. That being said, they do have some legitimately useful features, like being able to cap the amount of RAM used with a slider. But yeah, I remember the sale raising some eyebrows.
  
  Correct but irrelevant. Vivaldi isnt part of opera at all. They have the old devs that left when opera sold. That’s it.
  
  Vivaldi is separate from Opera, it's devs who left Opera after it was purchased
Now I only need full ublock origin support on android and it's golden.
- You can add the block lists manually via Vivaldi's built in blocker feature
  https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/tree/master/filters
  
  Sadly that doesn't work as good as ublock, especially for adblock blocker blocking.
  There are some websites that just don't work with that setup.
- You already can have that :) Ironfox (Firefox Librewolf-style android fork) is the easiest option (uBlock origin integrated), but you can also use the normal firefox browser with full extension support.
  
  Firefox (and thus also the forks) is missing a couple features since the rewrite 5 years ago. The biggest one for me is lack of keyboard shortcuts.
  Also it becomes painfully slow on some more complex websites and dark reader is not nearly as good as the dark mode in Vivaldi.
  Because of that I only use FF on websites that don't work on Vivaldi.
NGL, Vivaldi is the best version of Chrome.
"Keep browsing, human!"

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