I hate designer shoes. I hate designer shoes. I hate designer shoes. I hate designer shoes.

ok but what about

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Saw a youtube short the other day about the differences between legit air Jordans and a pair of $40 knockoffs from some different factory in China, and they were listing things like how the netting is horizontal instead of 45°, and the little inch tall cartoon of a guy has the wrong number of fingers, and ended the video saying something like "so yeah, it's really not worth it to buy cheap knockoffs, you should really spend the extra money to get the real thing"

I wear 6e wide shoes. It kind of infuriates me that people spend more than I spend on shoes, not to have nice shoes to wear, but just to have them. I gotta grind my $130 boots to dust every 6 months, and these mfs are spending that much just to show them off. I hate sneakerheads dude it's such a stupid hobby

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Please look into Nicks or Whites or traditional bootmakers. They will give you indestructible boots in all of the wide sizes. More expensive upfront but you can give them to your grandchildren if you do minimal care and pay the $50 to have them resoled as needed.

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They're pretty expensive, but have you ever tried Thorogood boots?

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Hottest Desserts

These boots were made for walkin'

And that's just what they'll do.

One of these days, these boots are gonna creme pate a choux

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10/10

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Not with a Dr.Martens boot, that is more a fashion icon than a daily boot properly

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I forgot the brand name that is now operating in old DrMartens boot factories in GB. Those are apparently good

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- solovair, they’re amazing (and expensive).
  
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Same with Timberland. I have a pair that I bought in a thrift shop and it's going on strong for more than a decade. Bought a new pair and it gave up after 6 years. For this year I'm trying out some obscure maker from my country. They seem good so far, and cost less then a half of a new pair of Timberlands.

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I have a pair of Doc Martens work boots that have been amazing. They're metatarsal guard steeltoe boots that I got in 2017, although the soles are cracking on them.

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Oh what a timing! I actually just got my new pair fitted last week.

Over 10 years ago I got myself some Magnum desert ranger boots (y'know, back when they were still decent), and I finally had to change them this year. The leather was still... alright but everything else was breaking apart bad, so I figured I'd finally replace them.

But like! Magnum is a shit brand now, and all the competitors available here aren't much better, and the only real options for boots in that style are just, super expensive, so at this point I just went to a cobbler to simply remake the same shoes but with better materials and nice colors.

I think they turned out great!

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are these fully custom?

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- Yeah!
  
  Well, technically the design of the pattern was made by Magnum in early 2010s (it's the old spyder model), but the construction of this pair specifically is all from scratch, tailored to my feet and to my orthopedic insoles.
  
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hate it when someone walks over my hottest desserts :(

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Say goodbye to your pudding >:)

I apologize for my lack of understanding of the English language. You see, the English language is foreign to me and a secondary way of communicating. Please excuse my vexing demeanor for inadequately expressing myself within the limitations of the said language.

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- It's ok, no one knows how to speak in english
  
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- You talk all pretty and shit.
  
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Both are fine by me ngl. Neither of these shoes are designer btw.

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I mistook the boots as docs and the shoes are Nike... I'm layman level though, and there does appear to be a difference between designer and branding that I don't fully understand... Though it appears to be even though you may recognize the brand, the brand itself may not be designer (is that about right? You obviously know more than me, so feel free to tell me I'm wrong!)

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- doc Martins are kinda crap quality these days tbh. Go with Red Wing or other midrange gy welt boot. Check out Rose Anvil on YouTube for quality boot reviews.
  
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- I dont recognize the brand, but those boots are a common design. If built with even the worst leather, they will tackle anything and last years. (Lifetime, only if its top notch).
  
  In my mind, and I dont own any, designer shoes are literally designer. Not mass market. Inside the shoe it's gonna say not only the designer's name but the number of this item in the batch, because they are handmade. Think runway, red carpet, etc.
  
  Department store brands, led by a designer and their assistants, are a wonderful value but not the same thing.
  
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Nike is not a designer brand, and something like "creasing" is only an issue if you're a sneakerhead.

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hottest desserts

Ah yes, me walking over a plain of creme brulee

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Shoes on the left will be 3x more expensive and will give your legs blisters.

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If you get blisters from that shoe but not the other over the same distance, then the first shoe is not fitted correctly or your socks are too short.

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The price used to be forgivable because they would last forever (though I hear that's not so much the case anymore) but yeah, I've had some of my worst blisters from DMs..

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- What kind of D&D sessions give you blisters?
  
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- I've heard Solovair is now making the original boots of you want something that's at least rumored to be as good as the old doc martens.
  
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- It all depends on the brand, you just have to research which brand you buy into.
  
  I got a pair of Solovairs which have been wonderful thus far. They used to produce the OG 1970 Doc Marten before they flipped over to Chinese production, so the solovairs can still be resoled with a local cobbler and the materials are quality too (shoelaces were meh but those are cheap to replace).
  
  So basically NPS Solovair, and Gripfast are solid lines of shoes to choose from for quality boot build.
  
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- Docs are garbage these days. Try Red Wings Iron Rangers or something similar
  
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Boots need to be broken in

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Depends what you're buying. Here's the secret;

Norwegian Army M77 boots.

$130 brand new army surplus. Incredibly high quality, genuine leather, indestructible build, totally waterproof (I have literally submerged my foot past the ankle in puddles and not so much as gotten my sock damp) and extremely comfortable.

Secret number two is how you wear them. For proper boots like this you need to a) buy a separate inner sole, and b) go up a half size to allow room for thick boot socks.

With those two things in mind you will have a boot that can tackle anything you throw at it. They're real leather (and I mean thick, full chap leather) so you will have to break them in. Rub them down constantly with mink oil to keep them moisturized so that they'll become more flexible. They'll be uncomfortable at first, but give it time. And once they're broken in, they'll basically last the rest of your life if you treat them right.

Am I gonna wear them all the time? Fuck no. Give me a good pair of Vans anyday. But if you want nice boots that last, this is how you get them.

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- Real good chap of leather and genuine leather contradict eachother.
  Genuine Leather is the worst leather you can get.
  
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Only 2x more expensive maybe but they will last x10/x20 years longer.

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- Not anymore. They are now using poor rubber for soles that will fall off in 4-5 years.
  
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And will look like shit after a week due to the leather drying out

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- What in the actual fuck kind of argument is this? You say this as if leather conditioners don't exist.
  
  This is like saying, "yeah, buy a Tesla because the F150's engine will seize if you dive it for 15000 miles without changing the oil"
  
  I think "sneaker culture" is kind of dumb but don't really give a fuck if that's what people are into, but my Alden 405s are from 2004 and have been resoled once. Sneakers are disposable and eventually dry rot whether you take care of them or not. If you're not a slob, quality footwear will last and is timeless. You also don't look like a manchild wearing them when you find yourself on the wrong side of 40.
  
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- I have many leather products, if the item is well built at all it will last for many years without doing anything and even longer if conditioned.
  
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Gotta break them in.

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Please: maintain your boots. Every couple of months, just ten minutes to brush and roughly polish them will keep them going for years and years.

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Modern boots actually really suck for the most part compared to old boots that were made to be repaired and last.

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that's only true if you cheap out and buy crappy boots, which has always been true

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- Good point, any crappy cheap boots from back then have already decomposed by now. Survivor bias
  
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What's the best boots for men? Looking for a pair I can keep forever and have repaired as needed.

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My redwing iron rangers have been working for 10 years with no problems.

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- Bought them like 12 years ago, no regrets
  
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- I've been thinking about buying some for ten years, guess I should have already
  
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Starter boot? Get some redwings. The best? Whites or Nick's. It's worth a trip to Spokane to get sized, then they make the boots to you.

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- Too bad that's a 13.5 hour flight.
  
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- +1 for White's, my first pair lasted me 16 years of daily wear and could probably still be rebuilt.
  
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Look for Goodyear welted boots, if the soles wear out, you can take it to a cobbler to resole them.

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- Is sole wearing a thing that only relatively expensive shoes get? I've never spent more than $130 on shoes, and I've never had a sole wear out before the upper started tearing away from the bottom
  
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Look up a YouTuber called Roseanvil. His gimmick is he cuts boots in half so see what they are made of. Short list of good, better, best... Thorogood, redwing, nicks. I work everyday in a pair of Thorogood not too expensive so I don't have to worry about damaging them and they are really comfortable. Redwing better quality and slightly more trendy/iconic, cool to wear around the city. Nicks are a higher end work boot, if your life depends on your boots get a pair of nicks, think wildland firefighter/logger. Honorable mentions Thursday, a fashionable boot that can be repaired easily. Jim green best bang for your buck, got my super picky father a pair, he loves them and gets compliments from his fellow boomer truck drivers.

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- Thanks for the recs!
  
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Thorogood are expensive but are phenomenal. I'd argue better than Red Wing

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Thursdays, Redwing, Nicks, Whites

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I got these USMC boots for $30 at a gun show in the early aughts. They might have been cheap knock-offs of cheap knock-offs. But they felt like a dream and I could wear them all day and walk for miles without a complaint.

And when I walked them apart eight years later, I couldn't find a similar pair that felt right.

Curiously, my buddy got a pair (different style) from the same vendor at the same show, and her soles fell apart in six months. It's like I got Aladdin's Lamp of military boots.

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modern shoes in general absolutely suck, i've got a pair of wildling boots which are effectively thick wool socks with rubber outsoles and i just can't go back now, it's so much more comfortable.

not to mention that the shoes are so flexible that i can roll them up and stuff them in a bag if needed.

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Nowadays they fake leather boots and shoes with tons of foam and plastic, the soles aren't even really threaded: it's glued in place. The top thread is fake. You can't get a good pair of leather shoes for less than $600 anymore, last time I had a cheap usable pair was before Rockport was bought out and converted.

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I mean, I feel like all the older generations said a good pair of shoes would net you $300, that's gotta have increased with inflation now. It's probably worth investing a LOT of money into good shoes if you spend a good chunk of life in em

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- I think it's more than just inflation, I think the replacement of leather with inferior materials to cut costs has become the standard.
  
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Rule?

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I recently bought some Red Wing safety boots and my GOD are they comfortable. Mom calls them "Shit-Kickers" and I will happily wear them in any weather for many years

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I've been buying Sketchers for years, because they're cheap and durable. Whenever I go to buy them, they have changed the patterns on their shoes. I just want the same type of shoe forever. Sketchers doesn't cater to me personally enough.

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I've been wearing the same pair of cheap Adidas to hike for 5 years

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Hey those are my boots! Like in I literally have the exact Same ones

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