4d ago

China Is Leading the World in the Clean Energy Transition. Here's What That Looks Like

www.wired.com

https://archive.is/cDNF2

The hope is that other countries, reassured by that commitment, will follow China's example rather than America's.

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3d ago

China Is Leading the World in the Clean Energy Transition. Here's What That Looks Like

www.wired.com /story/china-clean-energy-un-climate-summit-goals/

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- They're at a turning point, and coal is on a downward trend as a % of their total energy usage, even if energy produced by coal increased.
  https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/china#what-sources-does-the-country-get-its-energy-from
I feel like this is more propaganda than anything real. Last time I read about this, the scale was the number of patents for "green energy" and china was clearly ahead but particularly on batteries... I dont consider EV to be what will save mankind from the he'll we are creating
- Have you considered the possibility that this feeling you're experiencing might also be the result of propaganda that you failed to critically examine?
  
  This is a pretty shallow take, have you consider not looking the world in black and white?
  All countries do this type of commitments with doing something against climate change. Some do more or less, but most if not all end up missing their own targets. Global temperature change following the worst predictions is kind of a sad proof* of it.
  Unless you call the article anti China propaganda, all it says to sustain "China is leading green energy" is Xi commiting to things. I don't deny China is advancing steadily on green energy, but the article sounds like shallow propaganda.
Meanwhile China is cutting the green budgets and people forget to talk about that because it’s more fun to use climate action as a political weapon.
- Isn't it because most of their renewable energy sources are produced by themselves, and is cheap as fuck compared to build a new coal plant. Easier to quickly scale solar and wind, rather than building burning plants? = no need of any labelled and beaurocratic "green budgets" Anymore. Because renewables already IS the prefered energy source. (because of price per MwH)
  
  No they just slashed the budget for it. There were articles a week or two ago.
- Good China is committing, maybe check this other article for another contextual framing.
  The pace of emissions reduction (about 1% per year) is slower than that of most industrialized nations, and some analysts argue that China’s targets are conditional on favorable economic and technological conditions
Population collapse due to 20 years of local officials lying about births and school registrations out of fear of not meeting President Xi's targets means far fewer consumers and less pollution
- Cool story
- Population collapse due to 20 years of local officials lying about births and school registrations
  Hadn't even considered that scope yet. But sure, as population numbers drop so will the environmental footprint.
  
  Population plummet over the next 30-40 years
  Literally nothing can stop it the population is much older than anyone realized just 5 years ago

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