The subtle manipulation of language.
The subtle manipulation of language.
The subtle manipulation of language.
@palestine@lemmy.ml
@palestine@fedibird.com
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Fuck that war criminal, and fuck the ruling class he served that still exists today
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Its Obama, what do you expect from that war criminal?
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I take it as the families of Israelis affected by the events of 7 October, and the entirety of the
PalestinianGazan people. How this is dehumanizing language is beyond me tbh.-
Analyzing the bias in BBC reporting in Palestine
Western coverage of Gaza: A textbook case of coloniser’s journalism
If you want more on Bias. Also, let's make one thing clear: This isn't a genocide against the Gazan people, it's a genocide against the Palestinian people. Gazans are Palestinians in diaspora. Israel has been working nonstop to ethnically cleanse all Palestinians in Palestine whether that's in Gaza, West Bank, or the rest of the occupied territories. Anyone acting like it's just Gaza or the "Gazans" is part of the problem. It might seem pendantic, but it's too late for some half-assed lip service bullshit, especially from those that have been complicit, enablers, and the primary drivers of this genocide and oppression 100 years in the making.
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Palestinians have families, and not only Palestinians in Gaza were harmed by the genocide and ethnic cleansing. There were also pogroms in the West Bank. Obama is bothsiding a genocide as if there is any equivalency between the victim and the aggressor.
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This tweet is best understood in the context of the consistently biased media coverage that we've seen over the last few years, in which Israeli deaths and injuries are covered far more frequently and with more emotive language than those of Palestinians. This is despite the fact that the harm to Palestinians is far larger, both in terms of the brutality inflicted upon civilians, and the scale of deaths. This is a genocide.
And yes, I'm using the word "Palestinian", because besides the fact that Palestinians in the West Bank have also been severely affected by this conflict (as well as being systematically oppressed by the apartheid regime even before October 7th), Israeli politicians have made it abundantly clear that complete genocide of Palestinians in their goal.
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Wait, wait... Palestinians are mentioned! When he talks about... shared responsibilities. Never mind, go on.
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Obama is a war criminal and just another cog in the machine
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"Let’s take his statement apart line by line because every sentence in that post was a masterclass in how empire speaks empathy while protecting itself."
https://drstaceypatton1865.substack.com/p/the-elegance-of-empire-how-barack
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Thanks for this link. It's good analysis. I found the tweet so viscerally offensive that I struggled to articulate the specifics of how it was so fucked, so I appreciate seeing someone break it down.
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Obama is evil!
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Yes, Obama was an horrible leftist that pushed the needle far. Finally people are waking up to the damage he did while in office.
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I legit thought you were being sarcastic when you referred to Obama as leftist.
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Obama was not a leftist.
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Wow, @Ultraword
joined 6 October
no posts
no followers
following nobodyGot kicked out of everywhere, I guess.
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Can you name a single "leftist" policy the deporter-in-chief implemented?
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Oh man. I'm pretty sure "genocide studies" classes aren't going to be talking about Obama.
Bothsidesing indeed.
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Yes, he has a responsibility to both side a conflict as a diplomat trying to maintain influence with Israel, the side that has all the power.
Civilians are always hostages. It'd be more reasonable to call the Palestinians being held hostages than to call the Israeli hostages "prisoners of war". There's also clearly more of a delineation between the IDF and the Israeli civilians than there is in the Gaza populace and the "fighters". Partly because Israelis are the aggressors, of course.
He can't be a person who just rages on social media about it if he wants the best outcome.
You can definitely argue that this is caving to Israel. He's literally being the definition of the word "diplomatic".
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In the presence of genocide I believe he can be judged by a more absolute moral barometer, regardless of his role or designation.
How does history reflect on those that remained silent during the Holocaust or Armenian genocide?
Obama seeks to put himself in that group with his assessment here.
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He's not a diplomat. He's a guy that has been paid at least tens of millions by israel.
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We're only permitted to critique one bourgeois warmonger at a time? How convenient for the US empire lol. Your "lesser evil" is a mass murderer and imperialist like every other Western leader. This man oversaw the droning of thousands, including countless civilians and children, across multiple sovereign nations, the destruction of Libya and Syria in 2011, plunging the countries into chaos from which they never recovered to this day, the bailing out of the banks that crashed the global economy while leaving the working class to drown in foreclosures and debt, the expansion of the surveillance state that has only grown since then.. and that's only the beginning, really.
Class war isn't a team sport between two reactionary parties, and nor is it "good cop vs bad cop". One manages imperialism and the exploitation of its own working class with a smile and "inclusive" rhetoric, the other doesn't.
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Two people can be criticized at the same time.
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If you want the criticism to lose all meaning sure…
Nuance and critical thought matter here, without them you undermined your own criticism/opinion.
Criticizing the choice of language can be fair, in the context of Oct 7 one could argue the language wasn’t malicious or even wrong… Regardless it’s fair to debate and there’s reason for concern, and reason to be mindful of language in the future.
It’s the bullshit equivocation that’s the issue.
This isn’t the same as sucking Bibi’s dick then bombing the fuck out Gaza and then having your kids describe the bombed out land as “nice beach front property” as they illegally deal themselves a hand in the aftermath like vultures. Thats a uniquely Trump/gop level of corruption that you seem desperate to normalize.
All it does is make Trump look like Obama not the other way around. All this does is normalize Trump. This shit isn’t normal nor historically consistent.
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I'm kinda hearing the critique, but also can't think of what he could say that would please the critics here
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it's so annoying when critics complain of annoying things like genocide and ethnic cleansing; ugh.
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Calling it a genocide would be nice. The UN used the term. Everyone in power is scared to say it because of the legal obligations involved.
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Here's an option.
"We must end this genocide, and stopping any and all funds to Israel, coupled with heavy sanctions and the threat of war is a great start."
Look how concise it could be.
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"A ceasefire is a positive first step, but must come with a future where al Palestine is free from the river to the sea."
He never will say something like this because he's in the pocket of the Zionist lobby, but if he said something like that and actually followed up I would be satisfied.
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@Drewfro66 At a minimum, yes. Calling for Israel to be held accountable would be nice too.
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He won't, because it comes with political repercussions, but what he should do is to call things by their names: that this is a bloody massacre, an extermination campaign conducted by Israel with the blessing and sponsorship of the US, while the whole fucking rest of the world was too coward to actually step in, so they looked away.
But instead of demanding accountability, he's washing away the blood and preparing to move on like nothing happened and nobody is to blame. It's disgusting, revolting. The tweet reply is right, Obama is probably one of the biggest disappointments of the generation.
I can't believe they gave the guy a peace Nobel prize, they should take it back.
Edit: you genuinely couldn't think of why people would be mad at Obama? And if you're not one of these "critics" yourself, then where do you stand? Because it sounds like you're sitting on the fence so hard that you have barbed wire shoved up your ass.
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That prize means fucking nothing.
It's just politicians jerking each other off for fucking us over. Don't pay attention to it and most of all don't respect it. It's nothing. It's the only way to make gold less valuable.
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you genuinely couldn’t think of why people would be mad at Obama?
Of course I can, people are furious because of his soothing rhetoric in an attempt to pacify well warranted rage over obvious crime.
And if you’re not one of these “critics” yourself, then where do you stand?
I'm not 'on the fence' at all. My stance is that we demand accountability and concrete measures of justice rather than directing rage at inconsequential platitudes of retired politicians. Moralizing words won't fix anything. The mixed replies my comment received illustrate what I was getting at with my initial questions quite well imho
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@Ging Maybe reconsider that "anarchist" when you're defending imperialist propaganda with that "imperialist Obama can't please the critics here."
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Well of course Palestinians don't have families. The Israelis have killed most of them.
deliberately too. they specifically murder family members in front of others. they're the worst, most vicious terrorists in recent memory.
Well duh. To be effective, terror demands an audience.