1.8 Million Barrels of Oil a Day Avoided from Electric Vehicles
1.8 Million Barrels of Oil a Day Avoided from Electric Vehicles
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I'd take diesel train infrastructure over electric cars any day
4Or... Electric trains? Perhaps?
(And the good ones with overhead lines not the shitty battery ones)
20Both would be good.
11Not through cities. We need clean running options in densly populated areas
6Thats not my point, my point is that dirty running trains are better than clean running cars.
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2That's a drop in the ocean compared to the total oil produced every single day.
0Actually, in 2022 there were 94m barrels produced globally per day. So this is 2%. Statistically, not insignificant. Hopefully it'll continue to grow rapidly.
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Yeah... Really want to bring that down staggeringly?
STOP DRIVNG A GODDAMN CAR FOR SUB 5 MILE TRIPS AND START USING BIKES, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOR LONGER TRIPS, AND YOUR LEGS FOR, YOU KNOW, TEO BLOCKS.
While at it, all the American continent should start redesigning their cities. Everything is designed for cars only, it's all unsustainable.
-5While at it, all the American continent should start redesigning their cities. Everything is designed for cars only, it’s all unsustainable.
This, ban stroads, end climate change. Force companies to solve the housing issues and mandate de-gentrification. Bam, we all have a future, we can afford homes, WFH becomes truly optional and RTO policies don't ruin livelihoods. It would be the next thing down from curing cancer, ending world hunger, and truly being the E in DEI for all.
7>end climate change
*laughs in China*
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The downvotes are from the conservative astroturfers that have been busy making Lemmy into more of a shithole like Reddit.
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is less oil dug up and burned?
-11Why did feel a need to poohpooh electric cars for such a weird reason?
10if there is no difference in the actual oil extraction and burning, then it does no good.
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A little less yeah, considering that there has been an increase in renewables for grid power, also it's much more efficient burn oil/natgas/etc. in a big powerplant than in an ICE car, so less is needed overall.
So yes. It does help. But electric trains are still better lol And we need more renewable grid power
8less is needed overall.
So yes. It does help
this is what i'm dubious about. just because less is burned in, say, passenger vehicles does not mean any less is produced or burned in some other industry. this article actually says that we made more oil this year than last.
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This is bullshit where is the proof also the electric batteries are mined by.kids in.the cpngo
-20I assume you're talking about Colbalt mining? It was difficult to decipher your meaning.
Zero colbalt in a modern LFP battery which some cars are now using. Other battery chemistries do still use it, such as the device you used to type out your comment.
Colbalt is also used in the production of gasoline. And when it's used, it's used: more is required to refine more fuel. Whereas the colbalt in a battery remains useful again and again every time you recharge a battery.
So if you want to be mad about it, remember to be mad at your own usage as well.
1Why are you so angry?
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Let's be straight about this: It ain't electric cars. Its e-bikes
-24This article says there are 2 million electric cars on the road in the US.
At 20 gallons of gas per month x 12 months x 2 million, that’s…
480 million gallons of gas saved.
That’s just the US.
There’s also no motor oil in these vehicles.
24My Bolt EUV uses automatic transmission fluid in the transfer case to reduce the RPMs of the motor to the wheels. Traditionally ATF is refined from crude, but you can use a synthetic replacement. As far as I know it doesn't have any grease fittings either, so it's all sealed in on bearings and the like. Don't get me wrong though, it's a massive reduction in petroleum usage though.
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Well, it's both. From the article, 2-3 wheelers do account for 60% of the drop:
21Strange that the parent comment is downvoted for highlighting the fact that electric bikes (and scooters & trikes) continue to make more of an impact.
For me personally, since I got my electric bike 2 years ago, I use it at least 90% of the time to commute to work (unless the weather is too miserable).
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This article says 1 million electric cars were sold in just 2023.
16I go to work 50/50 by electric car or analog bike. Most of those barrels saved it's me
7Still a vehicle in a pure sense.
7Yeah which is always weird. How many of those people weren't just riding normal bikes before vs downsizing from a car. I'm on my 3rd EV and would love to bike if it were an option where I live, but if I went with a bike, I'd just be replacing another EV.
6Assuming you could feasibly bike, it would probably still be environmentally better to use the bike, mostly because it is more energy efficient at moving a single human places because it doesn't have to move a whole car frame, and in most places a fair amount of power is still from fossil fuels, so less would be needed. Also the other benefits of biking.
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I'd love one! By fuck me, I clicked a Lemmy link earlier and it was $7,000 USD. Did you want gears with that? Another $1,300.
All for a bike that won't hit 40mph, which is hella dangerous on the open road. Couldn't move out of danger fast enough. Had a 150cc scooter, never again, 250cc or bust.
But still, a gas scooter burns so little gas, I'd forget to look at the tank, had no idea what gas cost at the time.
2That's like claiming cars are too expensive because you can't afford a Tesla.
I bought a wonderful ebike from REI for $1,300. You don't need to buy the fancy luxury models.
6$7k for an ebike? There are tons of good options for <$2000. Hell, you can get budget models on Amazon for around $300.
And most cities have bike lanes on city streets for a reason. However, if you need to commute to work that requires you traversing a highway, then yeah, ebikes are definitely not the solution for you.
6You want an ebike that hits 40mph?
4I just bought an E-bike with 40+ mile range for $275. 750W motor and 15Ah 48v battery bike with 7 gears, lights, an LCD, a cargo rack, and fat tires.
It was a good sale
1I converted a bike I bought off Craigslist for $200 plus an $850 Bafang kit off AliExpress. Didn't have any experience with bike maintenance beforehand, but did have access to a makerspace with a full bike bench (there's some specialized tools for pulling things out). Didn't have it completely working before winter hit--works as a bike, but the motor assist isn't kicking in for some reason--but I still think it's an option most people could pull off.
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but also factor in what it takes to charge those batteries because that is fossil fuel somewhere down the line.
-27You're soooo behind the schedule. That was the anti-EV talking point 5 years ago. You were supposed to move to 'but did they factor in the battery production??' (which they do) and now use one of 'but is the grid ready for so many EV?' or 'there are no EVs below $30.000'!!. You're welcome.
31No, even those are the old talking points! Now it’s “EVs have batteries that are very heavy, so they generate lots of tire particulates, which is way worse than the tailpipe emissions of ICE cars, which somehow magically don’t also have tires or something, and aren’t also getting heavier every year.”
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They did.
Naturally, less oil being burnt means less CO2 emissions. BNEF estimates that electric vehicles currently prevent 112 million metric tons of CO2 emissions per year. And this is net emissions reductions, also taking into account the emissions from extra electricity generation.
25oh nice
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edit: so the article claimed to have factored electricty generation. Cant believe you are the one being downvoted this hard. As someone who worked in the renewable energy research institute, each time people equal ev to 'clean' automatically I get crazy. The article especially mentioned china, who has a significant portion of electricty generated by coal. Even its by oil, it would produce more co2 for energy loss in conversion. The article has no merit with such flawed comparison
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