Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak'

Then maybe they should have corrected them when they were just starting out on all the crazy, rather than endorsing the dude that's literally the closest thing this world has seen to the anti-christ.

I'm not surprised. I've heard stories as far back as 2015 or 2016 about people storming out in the middle of their pastor's sermon because the pastor directly quoting Jesus' sermon on the mount was too "woke."

Mark my words: if conservatives can no longer advance their cause under the guise of Christianity, they won't abandon conservatism. They will abandon Jesus.

They never accepted his teachings in the first place....

...did the pastor just wake from a 6 year coma?

'Christians' switched to Cult-45 the day Trump entered into politics.

No one hates Jesus and his teachings as fiercely as a Christian. Christians would be the firsts in line to crucify Christ for his hippie, soft ideas again if he were to resurrect, this has been known for centuries.

He's not wrong. But what he's leaving out is that all this is very rich coming from him personally, a bit of too little too late when he was actually well-placed in 2016 to make a real stand.

It is true that Russell Moore has been speaking out to some extent against Donald Trump for years. But it is also true that when it would have counted most, during the 2016 campaign season, Moore walked back the strength of his anti-Trump statements in order to keep his highly-positioned job as president of the internal ethics board of the Southern Baptist Convention (an organization I consider to be deeply corrupt anyway):

On June 1, 2013, Moore became President of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, the Southern Baptist Convention's official entity assigned to address social, moral, and ethical concerns. . . . [Three years later,] Moore's vocal criticism of then-candidate Donald Trump during the 2016 election season drew a backlash from fellow Southern Baptists, triggering a crisis in which more than 100 churches threatened to withdraw donations to the denomination's Cooperative Program in protest of Moore's stances and leading to calls for his resignation. After Moore issued statements of apology in December 2016 and March 2017 for "using words… that were at times overly broad or unnecessarily harsh," Southern Baptist leaders affirmed their support for his leadership and he remained in his post. (Wikipedia)

It's hard to call upon the rules and be taken seriously when you have not taken the rules seriously yourself:

“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and wealth." -- Jesus

EDITED TO ADD: I am not a Christian myself, just comparing idolatry to idolatry here.

Shouldn't he be like the false prophet they warn themselves about? I mean, is not that I expected some of those dumbfucks to even know what the bible says, but fuck, the level of idolatry is astounding.

"I never thought the leopard would eat MY face." These people got in bed with quite possibly the most godless person on Earth, Trump is very likely one of the first true Atheist Presidents we've ever had. He's probably paid multiple women for sex and abortions, cheated on all of his wives, lies on a constant and regular basis, and is just generally a shitty person on every level. This is the person they hitched their wagon to to get Roe v Wade overturned. I sure as hell hope it blows up in their face.

I like messiahs who weren't crucified.

You helped create these people. You are these people.

They keep saying that Jesus will return. Yet if he ever did they would dismiss him as a "dirty hippie" and cheer for the cops who beat him to death.

They like the "is Lord" part. The idea of divine royalty and unquestioning loyalty. They aren't so keen on teachings of kindness, introspection, self awareness, caring, mutual respect, humility, poverty, etc.

Moore also said that one problem is that many Christians simply feel alienated and lonely, as politics have come to take over the community outlets that churches once held.

Oh, hey, it's basically me. There isn't room for "love your neighbor as yourself" in the Republichristian party. I don't feel welcome at church anymore.

The last true Christian was a Middle-Eastern socialist Jew.

Almost as if they never gave a shit about Jesus's teachings in the first place and only cherry picked a couple of things that fit their existing desires.

Now they're just going mask off.

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — 'turn the other cheek' — [and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore revealed. "And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ,' the response would not be, 'I apologize.' The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak.'"

Looks like these "churches" are in desperate need of salvation. If only they knew someone who could provide that...

The golden calf strikes again

Separation of church and state was created to protect both the state AND the church. Churches are not supposed to be political organizations for their own good. Dividing into camps along political lines and shouting at each other is what happens out in the world. It's not supposed to happen at church.

I find it absurd that evangelicals support Trump so hard. A man who is quite literally the exact opposite of what they are asked to be in scripture. He throws them a couple of pieces of red meat and they dive on it. How sad.

Bunch of brainwashers upset that the people they brainwashed are getting brainwashed by someone else.

Oh. What a shock. Look. I'm surprised. See:

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There you have it. They'll turn away from Jesus before they turn away from Trump.

There's something in the Bible about that, if I remember correctly... ahh here it is - 1 John 4:3:

And every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.

Who am I to argue with one of the 12 disciples?

I told someone awhile back that in my opinion a lot of the people in positions of influence don’t really understand or appreciate the danger of playing with the type of fire supporting or indulging the ideas that Trump represents brings with it.

It is not as big a leap to go from supporting prosecuting women for having an abortion to save their lives to getting the idea that Governor Abbott has a weak bloodline, due to being in a wheelchair, and should be removed so he is not a drain on the state resources better used for the betterment of the strong as those supporters seem to think.

Essentially they severely overestimate the control they wield over the leopard that will eventually eat their face.

Christianity has always been a very comfy place for the worst people.

To the modern right, Jesus was a beta cuck socialist. Healing the sick?? Loving thy neighbor?? Sounds like some LIBERAL BULLSHIT 😤 (my wife left me)

this has led him to conclude that American evangelical Christianity is now in crisis.

Just now you realized it just now.

This is a perfect example of:

!leopardsatemyface@lemm.ee

!leopardsatemyface@reddthat.com

My grandmother was an amazing woman who devotes her life helping others. She was a nurse who also volunteered at old folks homes in her free time, and she donated to many good causes. She loved the teaching of Jesus. Her dad was a WWII vet, and she cared deeply about treating others with love and charity.

She passed away over a decade ago, and while I still don't like the idea that she's gone, I'm happy that she never had to see this all of this happening. She would have been absolutely crushed.

I like the ones that don’t get crucified.

Right wing conservatives and similar authoritarians - if developing into fascists - usually ditch religion at some point of that journey for practical reasons ...

Trump is their messiah now.

Have they ever really liked Jesus?

Most of the Magats were always terrible people who never once lived like Jesus. Now they actually have someone's name to say who they model their lives after

They're just mad because Trump is horning in on their racket.

I... hm. I don't know what to say here, except I swear this is a case where the onion has literally written an article about this exact thing occurring. The onion has gone from being believable, to being prophetic. Amazing.

They were always gonna come for the priests and pastors next, the very second they step off the playbook.

Where were they the last 8 years?

There was actually a study that compared Donald Trump to the biblical Antichrist and the similarities were startling. One of the ones that really fucked with me was how it said that when he shows up, the antichrist, the rivers will be joined to the Lakes, Mar-A-Lago literally means River to Lake.

The leopards are coming from inside the house!

This is /leopardatemyface material.

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ok who here is actually surprised by this.

Pick and choose!

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

John 8:44 You are of your father, the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Matthew 24:1-51 Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray….

Luke 21:8 And he said, “See that you are not led astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he!’ and, ‘The time is at hand!’ Do not go after them.

Matthew 7:13-14 Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

Romans 16:18 For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.

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All those “snakes in the grass”

"No, no, you're supposed to show you believe they're weak in what you do, but claim you believe otherwise! Do you even cognitive dissonance, bro?"

The talibangelicals were literally on their knees worshiping a golden statue of the orange retard at CPAC.

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You're Christian, right? You're supposed to follow the teachings of Christ! It's literally in the name!

They are building a new religion around trump by co-opting the existing religious infrastructure. This could split the Church again.

If it didn't have such scary societal impacts it would actually be fun watching them destroy each other. Unfortunately, their war is going to take out a lot of marginalized groups.

Your 2000 year old cult that you say if full of love and forgiveness but has generally been used to stir hatred, abuse kids, and hoard incalculable amounts of money has been replaced with a new up-and-coming cult that skips the obligation to forgive and replaces it with hatred and retribution and even more grift. Congratulations.

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"all my patriot friends know christianity is about burning crosses, duh!"

Doubt. I doubt these stories are being reported to him. He has been a Cassandra for years to the point that he lost his job and now he presents a bunch of anecdotal stories that can't be verified.

Sure Christianity hasn't exactly needed Christ since the beginning but the specific claims in this article I do not believe.

So Nazis now call trump their Führer?

Well now that’s just shocking…

There going to start cutting pages out and replace them with the teachings of lord trump

Like that time one particular red state decided to ban the Bible?

i don't know, i felt like they could have fit a few more ads on that page

Trump is the new messiah.

Do you ever think how messed up it is people wear crosses? It really is wearing the Iron Age equivalent of a swastika. It’s almost as if they are wearing the exact opposite symbol of Jesus while actively subverting his message. Hmmmmm

But... they said all the things about violence and death were just jokes?

Abandon Christ!

Embrace Maglubiyet!

That's because they were never His.

Lol

Need from from religion, not of religion.

I think anyone who believes Trump is going to be good for Chirstianity in America should take note of this.

I mean, do not make yourself an idol and all that. Politicians are usually satanist. What else is new?