What if leaders were sent to the front lines of the wars they started
What if leaders were sent to the front lines of the wars they started
Why don't presidents fight the war, why do they always send the poor?
42War pigs was written more than 50 years ago and is still relevant
16Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor. Yeah!
8who in the goddamn fuck is downvoting war pigs
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They used to. For millennia they were with thier army. Even Washington was in battles.
32Washington stayed with his troops but kept behind the lines. Western Leaders mostly stopped leading from the front after Gustavas Adolphus got killed doing so.
18Also, Washington had military training and was elected because of his military victories. He didn't fight as president, he had already resigned his commission by the time he was elected.
6Wallenstein still ran like a baby from that battle and was assassinated by his own side over it (allegedly). To think Adolphus would likely have secured Swedish land in mainland Europe...
2I'm British and not that well read on the American Revolution but I was under the impression that he was knows for riding out ahead of his troops? The general tactical decision other US generals kept making was stay in the safety of their forts, but that's ineffective against the British who have the resources to win every war of attrition, and one of the things Washington was known for was basically pushing his troops out of forts by riding out himself?
I'm not super well read on it but that's my understanding, although the flip side, George III and basically every other world leader wouldn't have done the same, that was just one of those unique things Washington did.
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WWI was the last war that the elite fought in. At least in the US, and even then they sent their kids, not the old people that started it.
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29Mission Accomplished
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Then they wouldn't start wars.
13I mean, having them out in platoons is too much. You would basically be punishing the real soldiers by burdening them with some mook. However, forcing them to live in forward operating bases, with no special considerations for safety, or comfort, would be nice.
13Isn't Putin like two inches shorter?
10He's just in high heels, as usual 👠
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Why don't presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why do they always send the poor?!9Yeah-yeah, some folks inherit star-spangled eyes
Hoo, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"
Hoo, they only answer, "More, more, more, more"8Fuck, that would be a beautiful day.
7The other side doesn’t need Ai to get a visual.
5We need more like Zelenskyy
12Zelenskyy was sent to the front lines? News to me.
3Zelensky never saw combat, he's an actor who wore a helmet for pictures.
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"Forward", he cried from the rear
And the front rank died
The general sat and the lines on the map
Moved from side to side5Question as old as time
4Not really, because that used to be the only way to get people to war.
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Except he'd be dead or cowering in an outhouse somewhere.
3There would be a lot less wars, and the wars that did happen would be blamed on someone else.
3If the war is so important, then they will have no problem dying for it. If their country is so strong, then it'll be fine without them.
3Guy's 71.
2He doesn't have any qualms sending old dudes it to die.
3Wouldn't know if he's pissing his pants from fear or old age.
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*vacation Islands panicking*
1It seems to me that the traditional way of having leaders going to war directly has slowly diminished and vanished from being how the way of things are supposed to be.
(My speculation)
And I speculate that one of the contributing factors which helped in changing people's mindset and perspective, in normalizing with the cultural and traditions changes, is the fact that people of old time (whom long lived in these similar environment) [Edit: were able to get] used to accepting the benefits and the joys of having appointed such leaders, regardless of the drawbacks that comes with it - and the fact that they are corrupt.
It is a really interesting point to raise up, especially in today's age.
And maybe, then, the more important question becomes: "How/ why did people normalize their perceptions and mindsets towards such leaders, despite their anticipated character changes became worse than their precedents".
(Some justification)
It is really interesting, because historically, we have stories of figures (Such as Al-Shimr, the murderer of Imam Hussain) whom were known to have been cowardly, but were presenting themselves nonetheless, due to the fact that people sought the opposing leader was one with more qualities than theirs; and as such, if one leader becomes of the type that is confrontational and upfront in battles; the opposing leader, due to the pressures of his own people, perceptions, and environment, deems it necessary and more appropriate to come forth to present himself as one with better and more fitting qualities that makes him more qualified to be a leader than the enemy.
(It is certainly an interesting topic to discuss, research, and think about. And one might even write a respectable book about it, were there to be someone who writes a book about it.)
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- How did the changes in perception happen ?
(How was it that people's perceptions towards the current leader were inherited from people that appointed them long before their ages; i.e their ancestors that sought such leaders with presented qualities are more qualifying than others, whom, at some point, when they casted away the ones of their own that had stepped down into the battlefields with such better leadership qualities presented ?)
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When did it happen (at what point exactly in history did it specifically happen, that their perceptions changed so much that they normalized with cowardly leaders) ?
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Why has it not changed ?
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And what would cause it to change ?
-2You don't need to increase your text size for us to be able to read your book
4I just realized that it interprets ' --- ' in the text format as headers. I thought that was funny. (I was using them to make the split between lines from other paragraphs more apparent, and therefore more readable).
I apologize for the oversight, let me fix that.
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I could watch this movie
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