Wait is this a thing, have they said this already? (I fully assume they will but missed it if they already have)
53Why is it shocking?
13Exactly. Every instance will defederate from another if they are not acting in the way that they want. I don't see why Threads would be any different.
I guess the difference may be that the policies are much more restrictive rather than something like "is a frequent source of spam and hate speech" but there is always going to be a policy.
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Please use this official mascot for Calckey because it's funnier
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"We will defederate you!" "Ok me first"
42I consider this to be a bad development. I could see Facebook/Meta aggressively growing to become the "default" server, then squashing everybody else. Not to mention all the US intelligence fuckery that will be potentially happening.
We laugh at this now, but in a few months we might have server admins enforcing Meta TOS on their users for fear of being cut out from the biggest part of the Fediverse.
I'd propose that right from the get-go, a bunch of instances should band together and defederate from Threads.
41Defederating from Threads by default is absolutely the right move.
34Yup, if other corporations follow Threads into the fediverse, history will repeat itself. They'll do to the fediverse what they did to the rest of the internet.
7Can confirm, already defederated them from my lemmy
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This is sort of how Google's Chat tool ended up rolling with the XMPP community. Their initial chat system was federated (this is pre-federation, but the concept was essentially the same) with the XMPP servers of the world. You could use their pre-hangouts Messaging app across the XMPP world.
Then, when Google was unhappy with how the XMPP standards were moving they defederated, replaced their entire protocol and stole the user base from the XMPP community.
10Honestly meta should federate with a different social media company with a large userbase (ie twitter if they joined the fediverse for some reason)
6Not to disagree, but I think that's really unlikely, unless they do a corporate merge.
Honestly, this is the biggest part that's bugging me about it the most. Meta is probably doing this to ride on the wave of the Reddit exodus, but it's not unreasonable to assume that other corporations will follow suit if Threads succeeds. And when that happens it'll be like the internet all over again. Corporations coming in and setting up ad-infested data-gathering fiefdoms that will squeeze everyone else out.
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Isn’t that what every instance already does?
25I'll believe it when I see it. The fact they allowed it the first step on the majority of instances(by user count) means when we cool off they will win the next step too.
13Think of meta like reddit. Don't want to be on facebook via federation? Just post jonny O or NSFW. Not like facebook is going to do anything but defederate from your instance. Kind of like how all instances work.
5I'm surprised that nsfw spam is a viable trick. It makes sense, it just feels so weird to be viable. I'd expect it to mysteriously become against the rules as per my above post though. I'd prefer to talk about meta and their help towards genocide etc though. I'll have to start making a list of their dirty deeds.
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Lmao wait did they actually try that…?
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