YALL NEED KAGI.COM
Also:
- Classic web search: https://wiby.me
- https://www.wolframalpha.com/
- Pirates only: https://knaben.eu
- Non commercial search: https://search.marginalia.nu/
- Esp good for tech Qs: https://www.phind.com/search?home=true
- https://www.perplexity.ai/
Decentralise and build a toolbox, it's better for your brain.
127I just get tired of jumping through hoops to find what I'm searching for... Instead of what Google wants me to see
30'We didn't find many results matching the terms you wrote.'
THAT'S WHY I FUCKING WROTE THEM.
30Honestly people keep saying this but I just don't find it to be true. Google is a vital daily resource for me, and usually the best way for me to find most things.
Is this because I don't use social networks? Are people somehow using Instagram or TikTok as search engines to find what they're looking for? It feels like people just use social networks these days and nothing else, so maybe that's it?
28Of course it has, and this effect was completely foreseeable, and indeed, was foreseen, from the very moment they decided to whore themselves out with that IPO. They took their role as custodian of the baby internet and became a pimp.
Stop calling it anything else. As a musician, I promise you, trying to promote yourself online feels like prostitution. If you've ever tried, then you know too. The only difference is if I were a prostitute I might actually make some money back.
25you still go there out of habit
Speak for yourself
21Kagi.com is one of the best services I pay for. I know paying for Internet search seems outrageous because we've been accustom to our data being the payment, but I think it's worth it. The search feature and added stuff really make it very functional plus the no adds or SEO type sites is bonus.
18Search engines funded by ads have this perverse incentive to not give you the best possible results (or at least stop trying so hard to improve their results) so you search more (and thus served more ads). This may not be true for the underdogs (because they're trying to gain marketshare) but seems to be especially true for Google.
18I started self hosting a SearxNG instance. It's pretty cool, it combines several engines while not spying on you.
17Nowadays i find myself leaning the old ways: browser bookmarks. Not long ago, search was so good that i stopped using them.
14Yeah, If the search is about something relatively obscure then 50% of the links are random letters and numbers or worse, believable looking links that are riddled with viruses.
14The old "Bing is just like Google" ad copy is getting truer and truer in a bad way.
11This is such an apt analogy. I only use it because I have a couple hundred tabs open in Chrome and I am too lazy to port them all over to FF. Even then, I usually have to be really manipulative to the search algorithm to get what I want from general searches and heaven forbid I want to find something that is even the least but taboo. I just use DuckDuckGo for those searches, though it struggles sometimes too.
I know I need to swap over to FF entirely, but there is just so much, from shifting my PW bank to the hundreds of tabs and thousands of bookmarks. Does anyone know of any FOSS or FF extensions that can smooth that process?
10Tor Browser is planning to remove Google from the search engine options a user can choose: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/41835
There some say brave onion + no JS is good: https://search.brave4u7jddbv7cyviptqjc7jusxh72uik7zt6adtckl5f4nwy2v72qd.onion/
Mullvad team seems to be considering 4 possible options:
- Startpage: https://www.startpage.com/
- Mojeek: https://www.mojeek.com/
- Brave Search: https://search.brave.com/
- Metager: https://metager.org/
PS: Not disgussing ddg / ddg onion too much, basically because ddg is the long-time default search engine of TB. Most TB users assume ddg is a decent, standard, generic option, esp. its non-JS version.
8I've used Startpage for a year or more on my main computer and it works okay.
But if anyone has any tips for a search engine that actually supports queries with boolean logic and such, I'd be all for it. Lately they all seem to just not do that anymore.
I vastly prefer a search engine in the EU, that respects the privacy laws here.
5Any discussion on search on Lemmy will bring up Kagi as it has been here already. I will just mention that. A. You can cheat and just keep using a bunch of email accounts to get free trials from them B. If you do that long enough you'll realize their 300 search plan is pretty fair and having saved preferences is worth a membership and they have an option where you can use crypto to pay your fees and remain anonymous (this is very important to me as the only thing more evil than Google would be to have all your search data, your full name and your credit card info - I strongly recommend the crypto pay option and create a dedicated email address. For Kagi membership).
4Word. It's ridiculous how hard it is to get good hits these days. And while GPT makes shit up sometimes it's at least related to what I'm actually asking about. Google desperately wants to show the SEO optimized pages about something tangentially related instead of the page which actually has relevant information.
Getting a solid old forum hit for an obscure DNS issue takes a lot more work these days.
It's Googles fault, but it's not the algorithm getting worse, everyone is just too good at gaming it which fucks it up for everyone (the humanity special).
3What's the consensus on Mojeek? https://www.mojeek.com/
3This is so true.
3But we can still get Orange Julius, right?
Right?
2🦆🦆👉
2Lemmy really likes Tweets lol
2For some stuff I had more luck using ChatGPT and crosscheck using DuckDuckGo.
1It's an option that I personally was very relieved to get back.
1I use Google for maps and I'm still using their email for one account but I hate it. Duckduckgo's maps are way less useful. I know they're tracking my every move. I want to normalize leaving my cell phone at home at this point.
1A year ago I could go there and find photos of whatever I was searching for. Now half the images are Ai or fake
1We need “Google find” instead of “Google search”.
1I basically only go there when DDG hasn't indexed the Stack Exchange/Overflow Q&A I'm looking for.
Also decentralized SE/SO when?
0I use a self hosted whole instance because I still enjoy the Google SEO
099% of my Google searchs are about how to do something in python or, if I already know how is done, the documentation of that.
0brave search, mullvad leta, duckduckgo...and for porn use bing.
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