“I come from the slums; I come from a hard background; I come from a poor family; and I was a soldier.”
“I come from the slums; I come from a hard background; I come from a poor family; and I was a soldier.”
the reason Michael Caine and Tim Curry are so good in their respective Muppet movies is that Michael Caine treats the Muppets as fellow actors, and Tim Curry treats himself as a fellow Muppet
233It's really sad Tim Curry had a stroke.
He was always a great villain even in the cheesiest roles
43If I'm not mistaken, he reads audio books! Unless those are all pre-stroke as well. He is, however, comfortable making public appearances again, so that's pretty good too, at least.
15The Three Musketeers is basically unwatchable without Tim Curry hamming it up in a cape.
The lead actors are all terrible.
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This is a powerful observation.
27Man... I love this description so much, like a glimpse into the intellectual processes that go into the acting on screen, in best case scenarios like this one - top actors surrounded by sock puppets - there are crucial and consistent choices to be made.
It's like what they say about dogs and cats.
Dogs see themselves as fellow humans.
Cats see humans as fellow cats.17I wish the "top serious actors being in Muppet films" continued to be some kind of badge of honor. (Kinda like how getting a Weird Al cover means you're officially big time).
C'mon I wanna see Muppet shenanigans with Liam Neeson, Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds! There should've been one with Alan Rickman!
I'm aware I'm missing a ton of talented names and I'm quite impressed I remembered those off the top of my head, but you get my drift lol.
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The Muppet Christmas Carol is the best film version of A Christmas Carol. I will gladly die on this hill.
91The only way you die on that hill is from crushing as we are all crowded on there with you.
Hell, I picked up the book last year and had forgotten that Marley was a single (former) partner, not two brothers.
39Must have been a typo in the book.
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I know people who worked on it.
I have a decade of experience in film and have worked on some cool shit and I logically know that just like what I have done at the end of the day it's basically a job like the one that I am doing... But I envy them that one credit so fucking hard and will beg them for stories of what it was like as though I am a starry eyed child who wants to be them when I grow up.
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I mean, isnt this a thing in comedy, where you can make the jokes of the one being funny have more impact by contrasting them with a super serious character? Scrooge is already a normally quite serious character, and the muppets are known for their antics, so leaving the comedy to them and acting serious makes a lot of sense.
71Yea, the term is a "straight man" although this is slightly different in that the straight man is usually allowed to acknowledge the antics of the comedic characters, where-as Michael Caine treats the comedy as done straight.
I guess it would be a sub-category of straight man though, not a different thing to itself.
45Surely u go ou can’t be serious.
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‘I'm going to play this movie like I'm working with the Royal Shakespeare Company. I will never wink, I will never do anything Muppety. I am going to play Scrooge as if it is an utterly dramatic role and there are no puppets around me.’
I love how he mostly took the role so his daughter could see him in something, since she was too young to see most of his stuff, but he ended up really enjoying it and considered it one of his best roles.
38It's also great for the film because it contrasts with the muppets and makes them funnier.
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I'm sorry but it's my favorite Michael Caine movie. Yes, yes there's a plethora of amazing movies, but this one is the one I fell in love with as a child and it's stuck with me now. He's stellar in it too.
38I still refuse to forgive the asshats at Disney for cutting the "When Love is Gone" scene from the DVD release.
17I've seen this film every year since it was on vhs. Last night I took my kids to see it at the cinema and it still holds up. "When Love is Gone" was back in it's rightful place and having not seen it for a good few years it's such a welcome return. The pacing is totally messed up by it's removal.
10Seriously! Amazing song.
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Right above Jaws 4. Those shorts are a knockout.
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Here is a really in depth article about why the Muppets version of the Christmas carol is the best video rendition and stays true to the book. https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/2019/12/20/a-grand-yuletide-theory-the-muppet-christmas-carol-is-the-best-adaptation-of-a-christmas-carol/
32Thank you so much for sharing this. Made my Christmas Eve morning brighter.
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Surely people don’t actually think he should have played the role all wackedy schmackedy, right?
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14So this is off topic, but why (well except maybe Scrooged) haven't there been truly scary versions of "A Christmas Carol?" With the muppets you know what you to expect, and the version with Alistair Sim had a very frightening ghost of Jacob Marley. To me it cries out for a real fever dream treatment, make it as dark as possible. (Well except for the Tiny Tim scenes, obviously).
12It would be interesting to see a take on the story that went for horror as the genre.
2I keep hoping someone will go full scale horror show with it - atmospherically speaking. It's really quite a frightening story in many ways.
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Check out Jim Carrie's version. It gets dark.
2Well being dark doesn't automatically make something a horror story to be fair, does it have horror elements or presentation? Like does it try to frighten or at least unnerve the audience purposefully?
1I did and I especially liked the Marley's ghost in the doorknocker scene. Really creepy!!
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Not many people know that.
8I just watched that
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