11 mo. ago • 97%

Merry Christmas

#christmas #unions

BrainWorms @lemm.ee Merry Christmas

unions @lemmy.ml Merry Christmas

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Sure, unions are nice, but have you tried constantly ripping each other down in a race to the bottom with the hopes a rich person might notice and give you more wealth than your coworkers?

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Lol .... those benefits aren't gifts that were freely given.

People had to fight, get beaten, lose money, lose houses, lose property and years ago even get killed to even establish those benefits and normalize them today.

I have old elderly friends who took part in union movements in the 40s and 50s, many of whom complained of getting beaten and threatened and a few recalling friends and relatives murdered for organizing successful strike action.

If we had left it to corporations and wealthy elites to give these benefits freely, they would withhold everything and prefer that slavery were reintroduced than to give up anything.

Those aren't gifts ..... those are hard fought rights that people literally died for.

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- And today we are throwing them away for free.
  
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  Some faster than others depending on what country you're in
  
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  But I want my freedom to work*!
  
  *Without minimum wages, benefits, overtime pay, retirement plans, parental leave, vacations, or other civilized protections.
  
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This is too real to be a "shit post"

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why is this in the lemmyshitposting community?

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- Crosspost where appropriate.
  
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  Best Christmas Wishes too all
  
  Except Bosses /s
  
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How absurd.

Who writes what the gift is on the outside of the present?

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- Political cartoons, how else would you know what they represent.
  
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  What you replied to was very clearly a joke.
  
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- I do. Fight me.
  
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Elon, Jeff & co, we are coming for you and there is nothing you can do about it. Merry Christmas, you greedy soulless motherfuckers hohoho

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Where's the shitpost?

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"us"? Unions have always had issues with women. UAW once has a strike over hiring them.

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- One of the first unions that really stuck in the US was the International Ladies' Garments Workers Union, which started in response to the Triangle Shirtwaist fire.
  
  Yes, some traditionally male lead industries were shitty towards women, but your sweeping generalization is wrong.
  
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  UAW striked over woman working there yes or no?
  
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- Unions have been gaining class consciousness since their inception. It took a general strike of only white people in New Orleans for unions to realize that they will never succeed unless they accept and fight for black people too. The Wilmar 8 strike was a turning point for unions accepting women. Not to mention that this is probably from the IWW, which has always accepted women.
  
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  Are you saying what I said did not happen or are you downplaying it?
  
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- Just so everyone knows, this person is either paid or has interest in tearing down unions. Identity politics is used often to stop worker's action.
  
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  Liar.
  
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- But they’re a hell of a lot better about that sort of thing nowadays
  
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  And? The Internet has taught me that forgiveness isn't a thing.
  
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- That's kinda fair, but only if not looking at context. Unions represent the will/votes of the workers, and in the past women's rights were culturally looked down on. In the present day equality is a more widespread cultural view so unions now would reflect that, at least in areas that do. So essentially unions are only as good as the current majority ethics of the workers within them.
  
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- What is your alternative to unions?
  
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