11 mo. ago • 89%

Classroom massacre: Survivors say Israel executed innocents in Gaza school

www.aljazeera.com ‘Fired point-blank’: Survivors of Israel’s school massacre in Gaza

At least seven bodies of displaced Palestinians ‘shot point-blank’ were recovered at the Shadia Abu Ghazala School.

World News @lemmy.ml Classroom massacre: Survivors say Israel executed innocents in Gaza school

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Presumably the IDF will explain that they were all Hamas commanders.

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War criminals commit war crimes.

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These are starting to give me nightmares.

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Here's a link to a less biased source of the same story.

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The fog of war is thick in Gaza; we should be careful what we believe.

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- Which part are you trying to be careful with believing? The dead bodies are on camera.
  
  If the part in question is who killed them, there are multiple witnesses saying it was Israeli forces. But let's assume they are all lying, or were deceived by Hamas: why would Hamas interrogate and kill Palestinian women and children? If anything, they would use them as body shields, no? They can hide out in schools and hospitals so that in order for Israel to attack them, they'd have to kill innocent people too. And to think Hamas would do it to make Israel "look bad" seems interesting. It's not like any war crime charges are going to be brought to Israel. Maybe they want more citizens of other countries to get riled up to get their governments to stop funding Israel, but that seems like a lot of forethought for Hamas, no? And to also guarantee all the witnesses would claim it was Israeli forces?
  
  Does it not make more sense for it to have just been Israeli forces? Do you sincerely believe some Israeli troops would never do such a thing?
  
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- In great part thanks to israel killing journalists and otherwise impeding their journalism.
  
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So, should we just believe that? Not sure anymore.

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People here really will just believe anything anyone says as long as it supports their worldview. This place is no different from Reddit.

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- Al Jazera say they have video and pictures. Are you saying AJ are making it up, or Hamas killed the Palestinians? Maybe they all shot themselves?
  
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- It’s this community. It’s brigaded by hamas supporters. Earlier they were posting that IDF is harvesting organs. It’s mostly rage bait headlines
  
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  It isn’t brigading when a majority of the world wants Israel to stop genocide and they say it.
  
  Just because the majority opinion is against you doesn’t mean it is being brigaded.
  
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Oh Al-Jazeera....you used to not just be for propaganda 😞

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Not to be nit picky but point blank is "within lethal range". If it can kill you it is within point blank range. You could be half a mile away and still be within point blank range.

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- According to Oxford Dictionary (via Google), point blank means "very close". This would be the layman's definition.
  
  The official definition (per Wikipedia) is close enough to not have to compensate for the effects of gravity on the bullet when aiming.
  
  So no, it's not "within lethal range".
  
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  https://www.hunter-ed.com/muzzleloader/studyGuide/Understanding-Maximum-Point-Blank-Range/222099_88863/
  
  I dont give a flying fuck about popluar usage since litereally can mean literally not literally.
  
  https://www.quora.com/How-far-is-point-blank-range
  
  Taking something I didn't write to extrapolate on the words.
  
  "Defined, point blank range is the range at which you don’t need to aim high or low to hit your aiming point. Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR) is simply the farthest end of that distance.
  
  Point-blank range will vary by a weapon's external ballistic characteristics and target chosen. A weapon with a flatter trajectory will permit a longer maximum point-blank range for a given target size, while a larger target will allow a longer point-blank range for a given weapon. In popular usage, point-blank range has come to mean extremely close range with a firearm, yet not close enough to be a contact shot.
  
  For instance, “point blank range” for a handgun may be up to 25 yards if the gun has been sighted in to hit the target at that range when aimed. For a hunting rifle, that distance may be 100 yards or 200 yards, depending on which distance the rifle’s sights are adjusted.
  
  Bullets typically fly in an arc from the muzzle and descend to their target due to air resistance and gravity. The chart below shows the trajectory of a .30–30 cartridge where the rifle is “zeroed” to hit at 200 yards. Note the point of impact is higher at 100 yards and falls off rapidly after 200 yards. If you wanted to hit a target at 300 yards, you’d have to aim about 17.4″ high with the gun sighted in for 200 yards.
  
  The “rise” at 100 yards isn’t huge, so if you’re just trying to hit an 8″ diameter target at 100 yards you could do so without aiming high or low (point blank). But if your target is small, about 2–3″ across, your “point blank” range narrows to a zone that is at 200 yards ±10–15 yards.
  
  In terms of popular usage, however, it means you’re shooting a weapon at a distance were you almost “can’t miss” but the distance is greater than a contact shot.
  
  For a large gun, like the Rheinmetall Rh-120 (US M256), a 120mm smoothbore anti-tank gun with an effective range of up to 8000 meters, point blank may be on the order of 1000–1100 meters if bore-sighted to a large target like a building."
  
  So....... You could be with in 2 feet or 200 feet depending on sighting already calibrated.... You could be 10 feet from a air rifle.... You could be 100 With a handgun and 500 with a rifle. And have it still be "qualified" as point blank. Its a sensationalist use of the phrase. Try using different ones. That mean what your trying to convey. Like murdered from close enough to have touched.
  
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- It means the target is close enough that you don't need to adjust for drop, you can just point and shoot
  
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- That's an impressive amount of bullshit to try and defend war criminals.
  
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  Who's defending what now. I just want people to use the correct wording. Stop using words you think you know. Keep it simpler. I'm so tired of reading trigger words just because they help the Luddites.
  
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- "Not to be nit picky" proceeds to nit pick and be wrong about the subject you're nit picking...
  
  Merrium Webster: a: marked by no appreciable drop below initial horizontal line of flight; b: so close to a target that a missile fired will travel in a straight line to the mark
  
  Cambridge: aimed or fired directly at from a close position
  
  Dictionary.com: aimed or fired straight at the mark especially from close range; direct.
  
  Imagine a journalist using a dictionary.
  
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- Fucking Walt who doesn't know shit.
  
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Bruh. Slow down with the posting. You’re overwhelming the feed and providing Lemmy users a terrible experience.

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- Please explain, how does posting content provide a "terrible experience"?
  
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  If you’re subscribed to this community, the hot sort was overwhelmed by your posts. Of all the communities I’m subscribed to, I was only seeing pages of your posts.
  
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  You have to space them out or post them to different (relevant) places or it just becomes spam at some point.
  
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- We'll pass your concerns on to the IDF?
  
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- If you don't like it, block. I'm happy to see the content
  
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- 10+ posts on one community in less than one hour. Thank god i can block users, and this will be the first!
  
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  The level of "first world problem" this exhibits is one I've not seen before. Amazing.
  
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  Nobody cares
  
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  no one gives a shit.
  
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  You really showed them huh
  
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