Why does smoked salmon look 'raw'? And why does it taste so different from a cooked fillet?
Why does smoked salmon look 'raw'? And why does it taste so different from a cooked fillet?
I don't tend to eat much fish, but in the supermarket earlier I saw some smoked salmon which didn't need cooking, and some salmon fillets which did. They looked the same really - both 'raw'. I decided to buy some of the fillet. It was nice, but a very different flavour from when I've tried smoked salmon in the past. The cooked fillet was quite chicken-y with a slight earthy/fishy taste, whereas smoked salmon has a very strong fish flavour.
Why do they taste so different? And why is smoked salmon safe to eat without cooking when other smoked fish do need cooking?
Low heat for long time = safe
High heat for short time = safe
High heat breaks down more compounds in meat and makes colors change
51This really shouldn't be the top rated comment. Cold smoked salmon is smoked at 15-25°C for about half a day. If temperature were the key, you would achieve the same effect by just placing it on the countertop overnight.
12I didn't realise how complex this was! So with hot smoked salmon, the temperature is hot enough to kill bacteria but not denature the protein (so it still looks 'raw'). Cold smoked doesn't cook the fish but imparts the smoky flavour, and it's made safe to eat by other preservation methods? (as per @MargotRobbie@lemmy.world's comment)
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It's salmon, you can eat that thing raw if you like, like beef too, just that with salmon you have to fully freeze it once to kill potential parasite worms.
9That doesn't apply if the temperature is below what's needed to kill bacteria and cold smoked salmon is smoked at temperatures too low to kill bacteria. Smoking inhibits bacteria growth a bit, but it's mostly the curing that does it, and neither kill bacteria, it just slows it and allows healthy bacteria to take hold.
There's also hot smoked salmon which is low and slow and above kill temp, but that has a much more cooked texture so op is probably talking about cold smoking. Cold smoking is riskier to do at home for these reasons and store cold smoked salmon is carefully controlled.
6So how does low heat kill bacteria and make it safe? Why do people generally cook smoked haddock but not smoked salmon - different bacteria?
5This is correct generally but doesn't apply in this case
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Smoking is an ancient method of preserving food. It imparts a smoky flavor which many people enjoy (though some do not). The advantages of smoking vs cooking include being able to smoke large amounts of food efficiently using racks and potentially less and/or cheaper fuel, and greatly reduced risk of burning the food (or the racks, which may be made of wood in a primitive/camping context).
While smoked meats are what we often think of, many foods can be smoked including vegetables, herbs, spices, and almost anything if you like the flavor it imparts to the food.
Smoking does also cook the food, only slower. Also, some people do eat raw or undercooked meats as a culinary choice. It does increase the chances of acquiring food borne parasites if the meat is undercooked.
14@Boozilla Smoked trout is the only trout based food I know that doesn't smell like satan's unwashed genitals.
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Cold smoked salmon (such as nova lox) doesn't look raw, it IS raw. The temperature of the fish never gets pass 37C.
Instead of killing bacteria via high temp via cooking, cold smoked food usually kills becterias by some other way like drying or brining first and the smoke is usually there to impart flavor only.
11Smoked salmon looks "raw" largely because it is raw. It has never been heated.
Smoking the fish does indeed give a very different flavour to non-smoked fillet. That shouldn't be any great surprise.
Why is it safe? Well good quality raw salmon is also safe (see sushi). But the smoking does have an effect of preserving the fish and making it less of an environment where bacteria would thrive.
8Cold smoked salmon which you're referring to is not cooked, it's cured and smoked at temperatures lower than cooking. There's also hot smoked salmon which is still done at low temps but high enough to cook it so it kills bacteria but it does have a more cooked texture. The curing and smoking process of smoked salmon doesn't really kill much bacteria, it mainly inhibits it by creating a hostile environment for bad bacteria and allows good bacteria to take hold. So the reason smoked salmon doesn't have a cooked texture is because it isn't really cooked.
6If you cook it and it's like chicken I would say it over cooked . I like to make sear it in a pan for a couple minutes and cover it in a maple sauce . Should be flakey and still pink inside for best results. That's my opinion but I have no actually training.
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