The Release Date and Key Features of Windows 12 Unveiled

Lol. Remember when W10 was to be the "final" one?

Huh, and I've never even used Windows 11...

with a 64-bit chip operating at a frequency of at least 1000 megahertz continuing to meet the requirements

Wrong. The requirement for Windows 11 is "processor introduced on the market after the year 2018, with absolutely no regards on its computational power" (with a single exception to the specific CPU of the $3500 Microsoft surface studio because they continued to sell the machine with the same old processor for five years)

For example an i7-7700K is "unsupported" but the much slower and with less features atom-based Celeron j4005 is "supported".

The hardware requirements are completely artificial and clearly decided in agreement with Intel and AMD in order to sell more new computers

Remember when Windows 10 was "the last operating system"?

KDE developers: okay so we're gonna switch to a floating taskbar so we look less like a Windows clone

Windows developers: hey guys I have a crazy idea

Already??? Windows 11 just came out

Key features include subscription fees, only-online capacity, baked in popup ads in every folder and directory, is slower than windows 7, and also streams your webcam to anyone who pays them enough.

/hj

Nah, this is pure speculation. The only source is Microsoft saying they are working on some next gen stuff, could just as well be a major upgrade to W11.

Are they going to let us move the damn taskbar this time?

They are necessitating 8GB of RAM. for what?! Like, it would be a struggle to find a machine with less than 8GB still being sold new, sure, but why does the OS need that RAM?

According to the source, Microsoft wants to make the taskbar appear to float above the desktop by separating it from the desktop and rounding off the corners.

...why?

Why do they insist on dicking around with the taskbar?

So 2025 is the year I finally move my desktop to Linux and run windows in a VM I guess. I still have a few apps that just do not play nicely in Wine that would make transitioning fully more difficult, but I've been full Linux on my laptop for years. Maybe I can finally make the jump on PC.

Tired of windows messing their UI every next monday? You will love linux!

I'm not usually a "Windows is terrible" kind of peron, but dramatically changing the main UI every 2 years is the fastest way to get me to change to Linux on my daily driver.

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Apparently they're going to move the system files to their own protected partition in 12, first good Microsoft change?

why are the comments on most news articles on here so negative or cynical :(

I think the floating tasbar looks nice

Oh boy, it'll only run on brand new hardware! Gotta make sure it can run integrated, unswitch-offable OpenClippy GPT or whatever.

highly anticipated Windows 12

Microsoft wants to make the taskbar appear to float above the desktop by separating it from the desktop and rounding off the corners

Who gets excited about that!?

Plus, all the (always online, storing everything we say, type and look at) AI features should be looked at critically and not with high anticipation.

chromeOS meets early KDE4. Weird. I don't like Windows 11 either so but I managed to get rid of most of the crap. Should've gone for Windows 10 on my gaming machine but since I use Ubuntu 99% of the time, it's not worth the effort. At least I figured out how to install and use Windows 11 without a Microsoft account. I'd rather depend on Steam on Linux than use a computer with a Microsoft account hooked in.

I'm seriously wondering if we've hit rock button in terms of UI flatness.

...and we'll be calling it windowsOS 12. It has a revolutionary taskbar which is so new that we gave it an innovative new name: Dack!

Looks like chromeOS a bit.

Will they actually manage to put all options in a single menu this time? Because it's hilarious that I have to use Options and the a Control Panel in Win11

It will be interesting to know how much AI integration it gets. To me, I think Microsoft will use it as an excuse for telemetry and personal data. They already explored ads on the OS, so I can imagine selling you stuff while trying to use AI tools while trying to do your work. May be a subscription to copilot.

They know that they capitalize can capitalize on AI faster than any major OS developer, but how much value will be given by the user?

laughs in ubuntu

These are just the pictures of windows 11, just they made the taskbar float off the bottom

It seems suicidal of Microsoft to release the simplistic version as the first pictures again though...

Unless something changes, there will be options to move the buttons to the left of the bar and make it look closer to older versions again. Of course they could decide not to go that route, but they did this exact same awful release with 11.

Windows 11 still feels like a beta... Have they completely given up on quality?

I dunno how I feel about it. My desktop which is a port of 10-> 11 is fine. My laptop which is a w11 native, is all fucked up. The file path is c/wahots/Onedrive/desktop, and onedrive is broken, so I can't save files to certain directories. Even remapping directories doesn't work. It's a miserable experience. I'm thinking of backing up everything and getting some sort of clean license, as this Asus one is all fucked up.

New Windows release already? Looks like Microsoft has realised that its old model of selling major upgrades was more profitable than the Windows 10 strategy.

I'm so damn glad I helped my whole family move over to Linux years ago.

Don't understand why it's so hard to create a consistent, clean looking windows UI. I get having to support ancient apps but so much of the experience feels unpolished

Holy Shit Windows 11 just got Vista'd

I've tried almost a dozen distros in the last couple of days. Only a couple of them see my second monitor, and none of them pick up my WiFi card. Guess what does every time? Windows 11. It's been rock solid, fast and smooth.

Now I could put in a usb adapter for WiFi and fiddle around to get the other monitor to liven up, but I shouldn't have to. I did this for Manjaro, and I was hopeful. On the second day it crapped out.

I didn't want to like Windows. I used to be a die hard Mac boy, my first computer was a Mac portable. Apple polo shirt, tie and lapel pins, wallet, watch with Apple logo. I even printed my own t-shirts. 'The box said Windows 95 or better, so I bought a Mac' etc.

Gave up a few years ago when they became more fashion items than tools.

I've tinkered with Linux since Hardy Heron and Mandriva, and Chromebooks since they first came out. It always needed tinkering, nothing just worked for too long. Mac did. Mind you, Windows was crappy back then though.

Perhaps it's because I'm on the Windows Insider programme but I really have no problem with 11. OK it has some guff that I don't need but I've removed that. And sure it's not as customisable as Linux distros, then again neither is Mac.

For me 11 just works. It syncs to my phone as soon as it's in range. KDE Connect never did. I can run Android apps now (yes I know Chromebooks can) so Samsung Notes is my go to Notes app ever since Evernote went down the pan. OneNote is a pile of old fish parts.

I'll keep trying distros though, I have to as my old HP laptop which dual boots MX Linux (that's been flawless on the laptop) and Peppermint, won't run Windows 11. I have a 'new' older laptop coming soon and that probably won't run 12 ;-)

But for now the daily driver is Windows 11.

Blimus, that was longer than I expected 😮

Too late. I switched to MacOS.

I got sick of edge hijacking my chrome tabs, and then opening on bootup (despite being set not to).

Selling my Xbox Series X too and swapped to PS5.. (Remote Play on PS5 actually works on my computer)

Looks like a UnixPorn user's setup, a messier one at that.

Big pass.

Glad I got my steam deck. I’ll continue to use it until deck 2 releases. Maybe I’ll even be as bold to build a pc with linux on it.

"Windows 10 will be the last Windows."

Anyone remember?
I'm glad I did the jump to Linux after 7, after the Windows 10 trial suicided and took my entire C: partition with it without any success of recovery.

I’ll take some more spyware thanks Microsoft ☺️!

"the highly anticipated Windows 12" riiiiight...

Every time I hear about more modern versions of windows I'm more and more glad I switched to Linux

wow this is the best thing to happen to linux in awhile

Sorry but that looks ugly- not a fan of the look
I didn't expect Windows 12 to be announced for another few years, didn't 11 only come out last year?

My curiosity towards Windows totally vanished with 8, and everything since looks like hasted damage control to me.

Now I find it interesting that the vision and ambition of Microsoft for what used to be its most strategic and successful product goes as low as a new skin (more than "inspired by" KDE IMHO), more of cloud-clippy in places we'll hate it a lot, and more adds and telemetry because retail/OEM tax was not enough real money you spent for your OS.

I probably don't need to ask, at this point, but will there be an agenda flyout back again?

OMG it can never work on my pc but i already do similar set-up like floating task bar or whatever with linux I3 wm and tweaks and stuffs.