This community lately

Typically this thinking is mostly correct - e.g. Manifest v3 - but not in this case. If websites see enough users using chormium, via user agent or other fingerprinting, they'll be more willing to require WEI. And unlike Manifest v3 etc. this affects the whole web, not just users of one browser or the other.

In every case monopolies are bad. Including in tech.

And you fail to understand how terrible monoculture software is for the freedom of the web.

Stop to spread misinformation.

Yeah these half informed zealots really think this is somehow a righteous fight against the man.

they account for 85+% of Mozilla's revenue

So why is a company, one that has a clear incentive to reduce dependence on their competitor, funding something like Rust or Thunderbird?

I mean, define "ok" in this context

Will chrome kill you? No

Will chrome physically hurt anyone else because you used it? No

Will the internet become less free if google is able to successfully force this? Yes

Does using chrome contribute to this? Yes, marginally

Would as many people as possible switching off of chrome and chromium and onto an alternative help? Yes

I find this whole thing an interesting argument, as someone who switched from chrome to firefox for extremely unrelated reasons months ago.

And spoiling Internet for the rest of us. None of us would have to go through this if more people used alternatives to chromium. No website would've accepted a 50% loss in visitors over accepting some companies special protocol

It absolutely is not. Just how it's also not ok to buy the overpriced RTX 40 cards because it ruins the market for all of us.

True fucking statement.

Most normal people don't even know adblockers exist. Guys, if you're going to convince people to switch away from Chrome, it won't be on the grounds of protecting against some API or ads.

Does fennec support firefox sync?

Duckduckgo found tracking attempts in mull for me. It hasn't in Firefox. I don't know what makes the difference though.

Yes, LibreWolf for PC, Fennec for Android

everywhere is a circle jerk or an echo chamber except the places that I post

Just look at all the people in the comments patiently explaining what the problem is and what can be done. At what point would you consider this common knowledge that is propagated and confirmed because people on this plattform have reached consensus? It is good we had this discussion for a few days, plenty of awareness has been spread on lemmy. I'm proposing to stop posting about this topic as there is nothing new added except repetition that gains traction because we agree. Call that whatever you want.

Firefox what you should use, or edge I guess? But really Firefox.

Somehow it's shit on 60Hz displays. My 120Hz display phone, it's quite snappy. But on my older 60Hz display phone, it's unnaturally slow. If your phone isn't HRR, then maybe this is it? I don't quite know wtf is wrong with it

The only Chromium-based browser worth a damn is Vivaldi.

It's privacy-focused and made by the same people who originally made Opera before it got sold off and turned into malware.

try cromite

Opera is chromium based.

if you want a decent browser, there is firefox and basically all its forks and brave

you shouldnt use brave if

• you dont want to support google, as brave is based on chromium
• you dont want to support the people behind it, as there are some people who say theyre bad people but i got no clue if its true

i dont like chromium so ill stick with firefox (and mullvad browser), even though im still technically supporting google since most of mozillas revenue is from google (though i believe it is better since its not software made by google)

LibreWolf? That's a strange way to spell browsh.

I daily drive Linux, but I have used a Firefox on a Mac before

I don't know why it never occurred to me, while scrolling through ad-choked recipe blogs on my phone, that Firefox might have an ad block extension on mobile.

I just opened a post for Earl Grey cookies and I can actually read the damn recipe. You just changed my life. If I ever had kids I would name my firstborn after you.

I recently switched and I'm really enjoying the reader mode. Also, I highly recommend revanced for YouTube. (⁠⁠´⁠ω⁠｀⁠⁠)

I switched from bromite to firefox(with exactly those addons you mentioned activated) years ago because it just adblocks perfectly while bromitr had issues multiple times that were fixed only through updating the app.

I did too but it's dead slow on my bacon

Will try out fennec too

Unfortunately cromite uses adblock plus instead of ublock origin.

Only arm64 and x86 apks

I mentioned this before but I'm not seeing any arm only(arm32) apks

I mentioned this before but I'm not seeing any arm only(arm32) apks

I mentioned this before but I'm not seeing any arm only(arm32) apks

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And big plus for google: it can be extended very well. The site sees any extension installed, if the browser is headless. So only google can use bots in the future and can rake in all the ai training profits and sell all the searchengine ads.

Wei is a lot more than ad block control.

I mean for some rare specific usages it could be usefull like ensuring bank webpages integrity or similar but mostly and the main usage would be for what you said.

That's an easy enough switch. I've been looking for an excuse to use Firefox instead and that's a pretty good one.

A lot of panics turn out to be nothing, or nowhere near as bad as people thought. No reason I can't wait until it happens to move.

I don't use uBlock. I use AdBlock. I also have a setting to let non-intrusive ads through, because that has an influence, even if a small one, on making the internet more tolerable for everyone else.

Before I turned that on, there were always some ads that slipped through on occasion. No biggie, there's a manual block button. No adblocker is perfect.

Because Firefox honestly used to be shit, especially in the early Phoenix/Firebird days, but now it isn't anymore, and they just haven't bothered to check it out again. The "killing all the existing extensions" thing really didn't help matters either.

I was really sour about the Mr Robot prank where they modified pages without informing the user. But weighing a prank gone wrong against the active goal of dicking over the internet I'll take the well meaning pranksters.

??? I literally never said anything about hating Firefox, I was merely asking a simple question...

I used to use Firefox all the time, then they killed all the extensions. That doesn't mean I somehow "hate it" LOL

But like, y'know, anyone that doesn't agree with you is literally Satan, right? 🙄

Some that I have heard (some are outdated and/or mostly irrelevant):

• slightly slower
• websites develop for chrome first
  • sites (0.1%) don't render properly
• default Firefox still has telemetry
• still has ads
• no dinosaur game
• Mv3 AdBlock still works fine
• better security because more devs contribute to chromium
• mostly funded by Google anyways
• Brendan Eich (left 2014)
  • invented JavaScript
  • political opinions

That said, I'm still using Librewolf.

I have one thing missing from Firefox that keeps me from permanently switching: vertical tabs. I know there's ways of hacking it into FF, but nothing sustainable. I know it seems minor, but in Brave/Edge, it just works so damn well.

An actual, insightful answer that isn't toxic, and doesn't throw shade or insult anyone or anything? My goodness, I must be dreaming!

Thanks for not disintegrating me, cuz that's where the bar is at, apparently 🙄

Thank you 😊

I don’t know if you’re being serious or sarcastic.

I use Safari with Apple’s private relay and various ad blockers and have been quite happy. Are there reasons to be concerned? (other than Apple=bad)

Right what platinum coated bookmarks are they using? Firefox syncs bookmarks, has them organized by folders, has a bookmarks bar, can pin them to the start page, idk what else they need

I probably should have specified that I meant the UI. You can do everything in Firefox, but for me, the Chromium UI just looks nicer, it's "cleaner" for me, even if it comes at the cost of having the address-bar in a submenu, for example. Because I use the bookmark-manager quite often, that's a majority points I consider. For 99% of the people, Firefox will do the job just as well as Chromium especially if you just use the bookmarks, not the manager. For some it probably looks even better. It's just preference.

Yeah, it's basically chrome without the bloat, less spying, and without the prohibition on ad blockers

Lmfao. Bro edge is chromium my guy. You just switched from one skin to another is all. It's all the same under the hood🤣

They are definitely not all the same, and Vivaldi is a fantastic example of that. Just because it's Chromium-based doesn't mean it's chock full of bullshit and a Chrome reskin, it just means that it most likely is. Vivaldi definitely isn't.

Yes. It's chromium. It's based on the open source base engine for Chrome. Which means, it has all the benefits of Chrome without the Google bullshit.

Correct. The real problem is allowing monopolies in the first place.

Correct. We would not even be here if corporations could be trusted. Everyone needs to get this somehow. Federation (open source project development is kind of federated as well) is the key. Actually, we‘re having the same oppressive authoritarianism that gave birth to federated states. Looks like a pattern.

That's one of the smaller problems...

The proverbial ice cram sticker on the windowless truck.

Have you tried the one recently implemented in Firefox? I'm not sure about Edge, but it's much better than Chrome's. I rarely have to use anything else.

Seems like they are pretty informed. Or are you just mad he's calling out over zealous privacy advocates who ensure nobody will ever take them seriously because they bitched about TikTok for 5 years.

idk about OP but I use chrome because in Firefox I have to manually download my web history and send it to Google so they can log it for my security, Chrome streamlines this process and ensures Google has my data even if I mistakenly wonder onto a website they don't have trackers on

Off the top of my head:

• Tab tiling
• Multi-level tab bars
• Workspaces
• Automatic session backups
• Sidebar panels
• Spotlight-like global search
• Commands to toggle parts of the Ul
• Custom toolbar buttons

Then how about tab tiling, multi-level tab bars, workspaces, automatic session backups, sidebar panels, Spotlight-like global search, commands to toggle parts of the UI and custom toolbar buttons?

I can probably find an extension for most of these if I look hard enough, but then I'd have to worry about them being maintained and not sold out. At that point I'd rather use a browser that has all this built-in.

Do you think a message like yours will convince me to give it another try?

Who said anything about Chrome?

You verbally abuse me and hallucinate things I didn't even mention. You're exactly the kind of person I was talking about.

@JokeDeity @HKayn, Tab groupings, PWAs, hibernate inactive Tabs, vertical tabs, casting on desktop, workspaces, compatibility with some webs, vertical tabs.... well, maybe with a ton of extensions..