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Men on vegan diets perceived as less masculine, highlighting gender stereotypes in diet choices.

www.theinnovativehorizon.com Vegan Men Viewed as Less Macho, Exposing Gender Biases in Dietary Preferences

In the smorgasbord of modern society, where your diet can be as much a statement as your Spotify playlist, a recent study has tossed up some food for thought. Researchers from the University of Warsaw have dished out insights into how vegetarian and vegan diets are more than a culinary choice – they...

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Yep and so are cat owners and anyone that has a stereotypically feminine hobby like knitting or crochetting. Sexism is bad for everyone.
- On the bright side, as a tall bearded guy I get a lot of fun reactions when kitting in public. The silent confused onlookers are fun, but the enthusiastic middle aged women are the best.
  
  As a fairly good sized very furry man myself, it is amusing to watch some "alpha male" stick man's brain short circuit as I drink the fruitiest, girliest drink at the bar while looking like I could crush their skull in one hand and drink a beer out of the other. They really don't know what to do with people that aren't insecure about their masculinity.

yeah. fuck toxic masculinity. Hold strong brothers. be weak, be vulnerable, be soft, be the man you want to be.
- What’s more masculine than being who you want to be no matter what others think
  
  Yeah. Fuck those soft men.
  Literally. Literally fuck them.
- COME AND HOLD ME GINGERLY, FOR MY GUN

As a transfeminine vegan, this is oddly validating in the most sus way possible.

If someone is judging me for what I want to eat, I'm not the one with the masculinity issues.

The irony here is that real men wouldn’t care, and the irony in that- is that you cannot define a “real man” as all men are real.
- you cannot define a “real man” as all men are real.
  If we acknowledge gender, then we must acknowledge this idea by the same logic. Both are social constructs about the sexual identity of a person, disconnected from their biology.

Fellas, is it gay to try and be healthier?
- Let it be. If dietary option correlates with inteligence, it will help thin out the herd by excess of cholestherol.
  
  I don't think you understand you evolution works
- Real men kill wildlife with their bare hands, eat it raw, and fuck the corpse.
- I mean, there's that association between manliness and "big eating", lol

Caring about perceived masculinity does not sound very masculine to me, so whatever. I'm confident enough to stand by my choices and others should too.

The whole idea of assigning gender to foods or diets is bizarre to me.... a salad is feminine while steak is masculine? What about vegetables on a burger? Or a salad with steak in it?
- I see it a lot on tinder when women say in their profile they beed a real man that eats meat. How absolutely bizzare. There is bothing manly about buying meat. No one goes hunting
  
  I love bringing up the hunting aspect when people use the “but my ancestors ate meat” line. Like yeah they ate it after tracking it for a week with the strongest members of their community and killing it in a life or death struggle that tested the limits of their endurance. And even then they ate it sparingly so as to not have to go on another life threatening hunt for as long as possible. Not exactly the same as skulling bacon wrapped baconator burgers every night while binging Netflix from your couch.
  
  I misread your typo as “breed” lol
- There are whole languages that assign gender to every object.
  
  True, but me living in una casa (house, feminine) doesn't make someone make someone feminine by proxy
  
  I don’t know if you’re being serious but what does that have to do with anything? In Italian the word for “beard” is feminine, I can assure you nobody links it with femininity in any way. Just because the neutral gender doesn’t exist that doesn’t mean everything is actually gendered.
- @Sho @Joleee Easy, intersex! Or, if we're going with gender, nonbinary!
- a salad is feminine while steak is masculine?
  When has a 90s cartoon ever been wrong?
  https://youtu.be/watch?v=cM2u5-mVx7Q
  
  Talk about a mood, I haven't heard space ghost in forever!
  
  Put the steak on top of the salad. win win.
  -nonbinary thinking, btw lol

If someone verbally calls me not masculine for whatever choices I make I usually just respond with “isn’t the real pussy bitch thing to do is to judge others for their food?”. It’s not the best comeback, sure, but it does short out their brains a bit
- “Maybe you should try a salad too some time you fat fuck”
  Or
  “I dunno, it’s not very manly to care so much what morons think of me either.”
- Caring about being manly and shitting on other guys for not being man enough is a sign that you're very insecure about yourself and/or your sexuality in my eyes.
  
  I thought shitting on other guys was called a Cleveland Steamer.
- "I suppose that would matter, if I gave a shit what you think" was my retort when someone trwid judging me for my spiced rum and cranberry. They didn't like it, they also don't say shit when I order a hot chocolate.

I had a friend who truly believed in the whole "soyboy" thing and touted that people with "low testosterone" or who do "girly things" aren't "real men".
This motherfucker was the most unlikable, insecure, lonely man I've ever met. I was his only true friend until I finally got sick of the radical horseshit he began to openly support.
Don't take the opinions of stupid people with any value.
- They're always skinny-fat, too. Like if you were a meat titan or something I might consider the "Low T" argument at least logical. But when you're smaller than me and think your political affiliation makes you more masculine... Well.
  
  Nah. This dude was almost 300 lbs. One time whined to me about how liberals are going to try to "force the normalization of eating bugs in the US!" Like...... okay...? What?
  I hit a breaking point eventually when he tried to be clever by not directly answering my questions about his ideology. I finally just said "This isn't a court of law, jackass. Just answer the damn question with a yes or no." Fucking coward couldn't even do that.
  In the end, there's nothing more shameful to them than being compared to a woman. Which says a whole damn lot about their core beliefs.
  Pathetic.

Eating hard, throbbing meat isn't vegan tho.

gotta die with a wagu marbled heart to be a real man
- *wagyu
- I grew up watching 'The Rockford Files.' Great show if you've never seen it. The star was James Garner, who later became the spokesman for the beef ranchers' association. He gave up that job after he had to get a quadruple bypass.

One of the best lovers I've ever had was vegan, I haven't seen him in over a year but whoo-EEE I still think about him every single day. That man fucked passionately.
- Does he know?
  
  Yup

Masculinity / insecurity

I was raised vegetarian, and as such it was normal to me and my brother. My mom did it for environmental reason because she is fucking awesome and I have decided to stay vegetarian as an adult.
It was around 10 when I started encountering this oddness. I would be at a friend's house, they would offer to give me food, I would say I'm vegetarian, and they would act like I was an alien or make comments about my parents being abusive to me. And then as I got older I got all these comments about me not being a man because I don't eat meat.
For fucks sake, being a man doesn't mean conformity. As far as I can understand, it means being brave enough to not give in to stupid gender norms and to find out who you are for yourself.
Of course the people who made the most asshole type comments were always right-wingers, too. What a surprise!

Trying to live longer vs your stupid opinion. Gee, I wonder what's more important.

In times of food scarcity it's important the male can eat the weaker babies, so the strong offspring can survive /s

Man, I love Lemmy so much, just look at the comments, this will be the total opossite in the alien site, meta site or bird site, for sure. Feels good man 😊

Massive amounts of meat are produced globally. It's contributing to climate change and will be a significant piece of the puzzle that destroys the human species. So, don't let that go to waste. Eat up! We're all dead in a few years anyway.

Its because they are weird.
- Why do you think they're weird?
- Yes! Men can only eat raw steaks, drink PBR, and personal hygiene is a big no-no!
  Yee-haw! 🤠
  
  There is nothing gayer than cleaning your ass
- You're weird

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