"Did you realize that we live in a reality where SciHub is illegal, and OpenAI is not?"

It's so ridiculous when corporations steal everyone's work for their own profit, no one bats an eye but when a group of individuals do the same to make education and knowledge free for everyone it's somehow illegal, unethical, immoral and what not.

I pirated 90% of the texts I used to write my thesis at university, because those books would have cost me hundreds of euros that I didn't have.

Fuck you, capitalism.

this is because the technocrats are allowed to steal from you, but when you steal from them what they've stolen from actual researchers that's a problem

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What really breaks the suspension of disbelief in this reality of ours is that fucking advertising is the most privacy invasive activity in the world. Seriously, even George Orwell would call bullshit on that.

Oh OpenAI is just as illegal as SciHub. More so because they're making money off of stolen IP. It's just that the Oligarchs get to pick and choose. So of course they choose the arrangement that gives them more control over knowledge.

If you have enough money, you can do whatever you want!

Make the AI folks use public domain training data or nothing and maybe we'll see the "life of the author + 75 years" bullshit get scaled back to something reasonable.

And people wonder why there's so much push back against everything corps/gov does these days. They do not act in a manner which encourages trust.

OpenAI isn't really proven as legal. They claim it is, and it's very difficult to mount a challenge, but there definitely is an argument that they have no fair use protection - their "research" is in fact development of a commercial product.

The IP system, which goes to great lengths to block things like open-access scientific publications, is borked borked borked borked borked.

If OpenAI and other generative AI projects are the means by which we finally break it so we can have culture and a public domain again, well, we had to nail Capone with tax evasion.

Yes, industrialists want to use AI [exactly they way they want to use every other idea -- plausible or not] to automate more of their industries so they can pay fewer people less money for more productivity. And this is a problem of which generative AI figures centrally, but it's not really all that new, and eventually we're going to have to force our society to recognize that it works for the public and not money. I don't think AI is going to break the system and lead us to communist revolution ( The owning class will tremble...! ) But eventually it will be 1789 all over again. Or we'll crush the fash and realize the only way we can get the fash to not come back is by restoring and extending FDR's new deal.

I am skeptical the latter can happen without piles of elite heads and rivers of politician blood.

Time to make OpenASci?

/rimshot

This is different. AI as a transformative tech is going to usher the US economy into the next boom of prosperity. The AI revolution will change the world and allow people to decide if they want to work for money or not (read UBI). In case you haven't caught on, am being sarcastic.

All this despite ChatGPT being a total complete joke.

Consider who sits on OpenAI's board and owns all their equity.

SciHub's big mistake was to fail to get someone like Sundar Pichai or Jamie Iannone with a billion-dollar stake in the company.

Kind of a strawman, I'd like everything to be FOSS, and if we keep Capitalism (which we shouldn't), it should be HEAVILY regulated not the laissez-faire corporatocracy / oligarchy we have now.

I don't want any for-profit capitalists to have any control of AI. It should all be owned by the public and all productive gains from it taxed at 100%. But open source AI models, right on.

And team SciHub--FUCK YEAH!

What's scihub?

If this ends with LLMs getting shutdown to some degree, I wonder if it's going to result in something like a Pirate Bai.

Lemmy users: Copyright law is broken and stupid.

Also Lemmy users: A.I. violates copyright law!

Yes, because 1:1 duplication of copy written works violates copyright, but summaries of those works and relaying facts stated in those works is perfectly legal (by an ai or not).

man this cyberpunk present fucking sucks

Weird, why would OpenAI be illegal? Bizarre comp.