You're Not Imagining It: Google Search Results Are Getting Worse, Study Finds
You're Not Imagining It: Google Search Results Are Getting Worse, Study Finds
Google swears everything is fine. A new study—and many people's lived experience—says different.
You're Not Imagining It: Google Search Results Are Getting Worse, Study Finds::Google swears everything is fine. A new study—and many people's lived experience—says different.
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...68Fuck using quotes or a negative search still won't get you what you want. I've had it still pull up results with the negative words in it.
30It's the same on YouTube. One time I added a negative term and I ONLY got that term in the results. I don't understand how you can break such an important part of search.
11I've used terms like "ItemA"+"ItemB"
And still get results which have the disclaimer "Missing: ItemB | Show results with: ItemB"
I ALREADY TOLD YOU TO
8Yeah, so they changed it so it defaults to the "new" way where quotes and -UnwantedTerm don't function the way they used to, but when you fill out the search box, hit "Google Search", and it fails to perform the way you want it to, once you're on the results page, go to "Tools" click on "All Results" and change it to "Verbatim".
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Query: "list of item locations in game"
Results:
- YouTube
- YouTube
- YouTube
- List of item locations in other game of the series
- YouTube
- YouTube
- IGN (their article is a just bunch of videos)
- Irrelevant SEO bait
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That website was so jam packed with crap popping up that it wasn’t worth reading
24If you use Firefox, the reader view works great when you want to look at just the article and nothing else.
11Or Safari.
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I seriously can't recommend Kagi enough! Make an account and do a hundred searches (FREE) that aren't monetized and/or used to advertise to you or steal your data. It's incredible what a difference it makes.
14I was reluctant to jump on the Kagi bandwagon, but I'm now a week in and genuinely enjoying it.
Before, I'd have to search things across Google/Bing/AskJeeves a few times to finally arrive at an answer - I've yet to leave Kagi this last week.
The different AI engines you can also use and the customization for styling are pretty darn good, too. I'm now using it as my dedicated search on all my android phones, my laptop, and my desktop. Time will tell if things hold up, but so far so good.
Only con so far is that it's sometimes slow to provide results. It isn't devastating, but it's like a 5 second delay which "feels" slow, but it's whatever.
7+1
Also, I wish we'd have a kagi community for Lemmy
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My problem seems to stem from the fact that my searches are often obscure and commercial interests probably wish I was searching for something else.
8i was wondering what would it take to make a free/open/noncommercial search solution maintained by a collective (like wikipedia or something). search is too important to be ruined for everyone by corporations.
8Like searx? https://searx.be/search
3Searx is a search aggregator. It masks your identity from the search providers, but under the hood it's still just a middle man for google/bing results. I don't see how this helps if the results themselves are getting worse.
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Because I'm too lazy to do my own research; does someone have actual good experience with something else?
I'm using Brave search and it's good for most things if I add an extra keyword, but not good for local results.
Thanks in advance for all the Brave downvotes.
8DuckDuckGo finds some things. I'm no expert.
12Yeah but those are just privacy protective Bing results, right?
https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/
6I would NOT use it for shopping, I tried that recently and got a ton of really sketchy looking sites with way too cheap products that had no internet presence before this month. This might be more pronounced if you search specific product model numbers like I was rather than general terms.
I’ve had it be mostly okay on other stuff. I use it over Google but mostly because I don’t want to pay for a search engine.
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I'm giving searx a try. There's a list of public instances here: https://searx.space/
8Https://qwant.com , a french privacy first search engine that has alright search results but great privacy control
5Duckduckgo has turned into to a google clone at this point i've found - you get pretty much identical results with the added aggravation you can't exclude keywords.
3I use Duck Duck Go. It seems okay to me, but I admit that I haven't tried anything else.
2I'm disappointed with the number of brave downvotes you are receiving. Recommend you stop supporting Brave. Kagi has been really great, I've never looked back. I value ux, search, and privacy enough to feel it's worth the price.
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I think it's related to paid search and SEO tactics. All my browser have adblocks for years and I think it helps. By my own experience I don't think it's worse, and to be honest I still think it's unmatched. I've been using duckduckgo sometimes and it's alright and all but it's definitely not better.
6This is the best summary I could come up with:
For the past few years, a growing number of users, analysts, and experts raised alarms about a truth that feels obvious to a lot of people who surf around in web browsers: the quality of Google results is in serious decline.
That’s according to a new study by a team of researchers from Leipzig University, Bauhaus-University Weimar, and the Center for Scalable Data Analytics and Artificial Intelligence, first reported by 404 Media Tuesday.
According to the study, those efforts aren’t working, but “search engines seem to lose the cat-and-mouse game that is SEO spam.” These changes often lead to a “temporary positive effect,” but the spammers just find new loopholes.
Just last week, Gizmodo covered a bizarre situation that saw Google turning up what looked like a child’s homework assignment for a search about former president John F. Kennedy’s stance on the death penalty.
It’s gotten so hard to find authentic, useful results that people have started adding the word “Reddit” to search terms to turn up content written by someone who actually cares, instead of someone just trying to make money.
In 2023, a Gizmodo investigation found the tech news outlet CNET deleted thousands of articles because its team felt that would aid in the site’s performance on Google Search.
The original article contains 1,257 words, the summary contains 211 words. Saved 83%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
4Ecosia is pretty sweet if you fancy helping the planet. It's also privacy conscious as in does not sell or store any personally identifiable information. They also anonymize search data.
important to note that Ecosia does collect some non-personal information, such as search terms and click data, to improve search results and analyze usage patterns.
3I don't need a study to know that.
I switched to DuckDuckGo years ago, never looked back
By coincidence, yesterday I had to use my Virtual windows machine to test some windows software with a a scanner (my own machine is Linux). So i go to the browser in there, search for the brand and model for the driver and lo and behold, all the results were sponsored or incorrect. Correct the browser configuration to DuckDuckGo, retry, and there is the first result!
Now I know, DuckDuckGo is now apparently just Microsoft Bing, and I hate Microsoft, but at least this works. I know that DuckDuckGo is also getting worse and I'm about to look into self hosted open source alternatives, see what that gets me....
2Something like Searx?
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For most of my usual search any search engine does the job. For the rest :
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