Does the way you say 'France' rhyme with 'pants' or 'aunts'? How the Australian accent is changing
Does the way you say 'France' rhyme with 'pants' or 'aunts'? How the Australian accent is changing
Australian voices really aren't what they used to be. Linguists and ABC presenters weigh in on the changes to Aussie voices and the death of the ABC accent.
I think it depends a lot on how you say 'aunts'
22I don't think any Australians pronounce it like "ant".
8The correct Australian way to say ‘Aunt’ is how you would refer to Aunty Jack.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aunty_Jack_Show
Although I am sure that a lot of the right-wing neo-regressive nut jobs that have popped up in Australia over the last few years would love to refer to her as “anti-Jack” because of the transgender nature of the show.
1I do
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Yeah we need to resolve that first. Aunts are cool and take you to a theme park on summer break, whereas aunts don't let you sit on the good furniture and the only candy they have are those lozenges with the wrapper that looks like a strawberry
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France rhymes with pants.
11🎵There's a place in France where the naked ladies dance
There's a hole in the wall where the men can see it all 🎵
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France.... Pants
7If you say aunts the same way so say pants, then it's both.
7As far as I’m aware, that pronunciation of aunts is never used by Australians.
2I pronounce it like that
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How you says words ain’t important.
What matters if you says parma and potato cake or if you’re wrong.
7Parma or parmi is irrelevant because it's a trash food for people with no taste.
Potato cake sounds more like an alternative name for potato bake than it does for potato scallop.
-11Blasphemy.
4Maaaate, think about what you're saying before you insult an entire country.
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Not if you call it “Lightly Panko crumbed oven baked Delatite Chicken Breast with smoked ham, Napoli sauce & Mozzerella cheese with your choice of two sides.”
Sorry for the quality of the photo, it was taken in a “lightly fried beer and flour battered, thinly sliced potato”
1Potato Scallop refers to either a Potato Scallopine or Hassalback Potatoes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaloppine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasselback_potatoes
It has nothing to with a deep-fried, battered slice of root vegetable, sprinkled with offensive amounts of chicken salt.
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If you say “France” or “dance” in a way that rhymes with “aunts”, you will open yourself up to merciless ribbing, with people affecting a posh English “oh I say old chap” accent every time you’re around. Far better to play up the Aussie drawl (and if in doubt, shorten a few words by replacing the last vowel with “-o”) to leave no doubt that you’re a true-blue dinky-di Aussie whose ancestors were transported for stealing a loaf of bread rather than someone who’d rather be wearing a top hat and sipping a Pimm’s.
7Aunts. We're just a lot more posh over here in Adelaide.
6Not posh, just superior.
4"Churchy sounding" to the rest of the country.
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You also pronounce the popular plastic building toy as “Laygo” so that nullifies any authority you may claim about correct pronunciation.
2Yeah, tbh I was kinda hoping you weren't going to bring that one up.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Across Australia, linguists are revolutionising the understanding of how Aussies' voices differ from one another, fuelling new insights into what was once thought to be a monolithic accent.
In a 2023 research paper, Debbie Loakes and other linguists at the University of Melbourne found the Victorian habit of pronouncing "el" and "al" the same way (eg "celery" becomes "salary") was dying out among young people in the state's north, but persisting in the south.
Dr Loakes says linguists used to think younger Australians were trending away from the broad and cultivated accents toward a more general voice, but that recent work suggests the changes are more complicated.
ABC listeners may be familiar with the archetypal cadence and tone of Australia's national broadcaster, which certainly falls into the cultivated accent camp.
However, listening to archival recordings makes it clear that the "ABC accent" is far milder today than it was just a few decades ago, and many presenters actively reject it.
Despite recognising that people perceive varieties of Australian English differently, linguists have shied away from classifying them as separate accents.
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6‘Franky’
It’s pronounced ’Franky’.
Isn’t it?
4@Zagorath by the way you say graph, I'll know where you're *not* from. I love Alan Kohler but every time he says graph, I flinch
3Personally I say graph with [ɑː], but there's something about the way Kohler says it that sounds more palatable than the American /æ/. I'm not really sure what it is.
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It's not a true rhyme with either of them.
2What about "get a yabby up ya"? Is it yarby or yabby
2I 100% thought the thumbnail was two people arguing over Poo! or Peww! and was really confused… it’s pool, so that’s alright then.
2@Zagorath shrimp on the barbie
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