Hexbear admin just sent me this.

Now personally I think we have the word takie pretty well defined in our rules and have no intention of changing it. Fuck tankies, they don't belong here.
I didn't write fuck commies, or fuck libtards, (I am a vocal socialist and very far left) or anything like that, the banner is specifically about pro-auth dictator-worshipping tankies.

some people want to post here but are repelled by "fuck tankies?"

good.

that is the intended functionality of the banner.

Generally speaking, people offended by this are either:

• libs that dont understand the distinction between tankie and communist or have been misinformed by tankies on what its supposed to mean, but are pro communism(wierd combination?)

• the "CCCP did nothing wrong" people

maybe having something leftist in the banner or some place like that could help the former, but I wouldnt remove the message, as it acts as a soft filter for the latter.

yeah. fuck tankies. that's the thoughts.

Tankies mad they're being called tankies?

Drawing a comparison to the use of "woke" is fucking hilarious. Only one of those terms is actually an insult, and the insinuation that both of those terms are the same says a lot about their perspective.

The fact they feel the phrase fuck tankies is acting as a barrier to their participation in 196 should be a wake up call for them to examine their political views.

Unlike their use of the word liberal, which they use to refer to everyone to the right of them on the political spectrum, we are using the word tankie for a single specific group. Tankie means authoritarian communist. Please keep the sign.

Yeah, definitely not. "Tankie" isn't some mostly meaningless word like "woke", it's a very specific belief in authoritarian self-declared, so-called "communist" states (USSR, China, North Korea, et al).

They claim to be for revolution and then turn around and give 100% blind obedience to the newly installed leaders. Pointing out their immense power or bad actions gets you called brainwashed, a reactionary, or counter-revolutionary. They win gold in mental gymnastics in regards to how the new ruling class totally doesn't count as a ruling class, how the state doesn't count as a state, how the money doesn't count as money, and how it's still communism even though not a single one of those prerequisites has ever been met.

They don't take down systems of oppression, they replace them and refuse to believe it isn't the greatest idea anyone's ever had. Here's a hint: if your "revolutionary" party demands absolute loyalty, they probably aren't as great as they say.

Imagine simping for a genocidal Russia with their homophobic and transphobic laws and still wanting to post on 196. Good on you for keeping the banner up. Fuck tankies.

I say I have to agree. Leftist infighting is cringe AF. Disagree w/ people all you want, but gatekeeping and name calling is just silly

Are Cuba and Vietnam considered good or bad? Nicaragua? How about the new coup leaders in Burkina Faso, Mali, and Niger? Any successful revolution has demonstrated the necessity of authority, to enforce an ideological will on society and stop the bourgeois class from re-appearing requires authority. Any revolution with be authoritarian, even and especially if it is the oppressed overthrowing the oppressor.

Sure, say you don't like China, the Soviet Union, or the DPRK for your own reasons, but why use a term that encompasses any successful revolution, as even the CNT-FAI was finding a need for things like secret police during the awful times of a revolution.

You should maintain your site culture, but there's a reason anti-communists and fascists use the term tankie as well, it's imprecise and volatile.

Edit: I apologize if this is not a post meant to invite discussion, I just don't see this perspective shared very often in these conversations.

I think if a person feels offended by a generic "fuck tankies" in the banner, then that person is probably a tankie. Fuck tankies.

terf is a slur 🤝 tankies is a slur

the worst people on the internet

To be clear, what I asked for, was that the direct contents of a DM not be shared without the other parties permission. You can absolutely summarise the contents of the discussion.

Fuck. Tankies.

This is very childish behavior to be honest. A simple no would have sufficed.

They, and their Lemmygrad bretheren, can fuck right off. When they're not minimising atrocities, they're writing absolute fucking treatsies on communist theory, and in general, acting like insufferable twats.

Fuck tankies 🖕

Yeah no, the last time I saw a discussion with a large percentage of hexbear user's, they were all praising Putin, it wasn't even on 196. So fuck them

Tankies will never be welcome

What kind of zoomer mod posts their fights publicly like this instead of solving them. Ineffective American habit-forming behavior.

I think all instances should block the tankies treat them the same as you would alt right because really there no different they both support facist ideologies

• Claims to not believe in authoritarianism

• Uses their authority to remove all comments that they disagree with

Ironic...

Honestly I think we should change our banner.

On the app Jerboa at least it's hard to see that it says fuck tankies, it really should be more clear.

Perhaps having it off to one side, split across both sides, mentioned on both sides, across the bottom 3 times, etc. IDK graphic design is hard.

lmao fuck tankies

Fuck tankies, and fuck Hexbear and Exploding-Heads.

Permanently Deleted

Tankies deserve to be made fun of

Yeah, nah, yeah, FUCK TANKIES

It's telling they fellt the need to defederate first. They need to controll their narrative, otherwise their views might get challenged and their tankie idiology starts to crumble.

I am for left unity, but tankies always try to strongarm the discussion and don't really argue on good faith. They don't respect any idiology other then theirs.

Probably the best outcome, even if it's a pity losing their more reasonable users.

Fuck tankies.

Keep the banner.

Blahaj ain't hexbear, if they want to auth com it up they can do it on their instance - nothing stopping them from making a tankie 196

Fuck tankies.

Come on... This is just immature

vaush is a paedophile

Fuck tankies

ah yes the famous admin @C4RC0S4@lemmy.blahaj.zone

I spread the word on any instance having a discussion about it. lemm.ee currently has a post up about federating with Hexbear.
The word is "fuck tankies with a rake." If they do end up federated with Hexbear, I would consider defederating from lemm.ee. But, that's just my personal take. Blahaj isn't my home instance.

I agree with not tolerating tankies.

This seems a little.... dramatic, however. Please take care of yourself - I know how drama can be and if you are anything like me the urge to reply ASAP can cause anxiety and stress and taking time to breathe may be helpful. Especially with tankies and a more general variety of internet folks who can make people feel the need to constantly watch anything you say cus they tend to pick up on some tiny thing and run with it or engage in bad faith :/ nya

"Tankies" is used to mean several different things, from the horrible pro-Putin stuff over on lemmygrad to anything left of liberal. I'm reminded of how the right wing of the UK labour party called their sabotage of Corbyn "Trot hunting"

The amount of upvotes on some truly heinous replies in this thread (and many other threads here) should be alarming to anyone.

Moss don't be leaking DM's in the future. You need to be tactical to be socially responsible. You could ask us - should we remove the banner? Or make a post saying that it may be upsetting Hexbears. I think the sentiment would have gone absolutely the same without showing your cards.

I want less politics in my feed and I'm tired of their veiled attempt to put more in mine

Hexbears are depleting their year's supply of copium. Oh, I just remembered: I joined this instance because of Vaush.

Im somewhere in between

and

wow lol was thinking lemm.ee users were the most childish for a bit there but y'all might take it with this one. congrats on being so cringe you made me post my 2nd comment in 3 years of dedicated lurking lmao. embarrassing

What the fuck is a tankie?

how about you leave our instance with your spam community (that happens to be the only place on blahaj lemmy I've seen blatant transphobia be posted)

Edit: remembered the block button exists, also i haven't seen transphobia on 196 since Ada's scolding a few weeks ago

Thanks for reminding me to block that instance

Fuck communists

Wtf is going on??

I am confused and out of the loop

Do it. Laugh your ass off and post pics.

This is perfect, thank you to whoever did it.