Hi all, maybe this community can help recommend some new shows. I'm looking for Star Trek-like 'world-of-the-week' stuff.
I've already seen the following:
The Orville
The Expanse
Battlestar Galactica
Farscape
Babylon 5 (I forgot that I never finished it, so it's going back on the menu)
Stargate SG-1
Quantum Leap (looooove Scott Bakula)
Doctor Who (Not all of it, but pretty caught up since Eccleston)
Firefly
Sliders
Foundation (really enjoyed this one, especially the Cleon clones storyline)
Andor (not a big Star Wars guy, but I really liked this series)
Is Andromeda worth watching? What else is out there?
Thanks in advance!
@maino82@oehm Agreed. The show because of Shohreh Aghdashloo, whose casting was a stroke of genius. And the books because it's a great story. Silo (on Apple TV) is also great. #ScienceFiction
Slight disagreement: Books and series are both fantastic, and yet: There are a bunch of great #SciFi sagas and novels, but hard #SF as TV series on that level?
The series absolutely excels in its art form, the novels only shine very brightly in their, due to the much bigger competition.
Another big vote for The Expanse. I always tell people to give the first season 3-4 episodes before judging. The main plot doesn't get started until around then and the full cast isn't even fully introduced after the first episode (IIRC). It's one of those shows that doesn't make it easy early on, but rewards those who stick through for the whole ride.
I'm a huge fan of the first few seasons. When Amazon bought them I feel the quality really dropped (especially in the set pieces/visual effects) but the story is still good. A lot of people didn't care for the first season or Miller's character but I really enjoyed it.
It's wild to me when fans of the show disregard the first season. To me, that season is pretty much perfect. Three arcs - a detective story, a motley crew, a political thriller - pay off feels so great when it all comes together at the end. Season 2 was such a drastic change in pacing, concept and 'feel' that I didn't want to keep watching. I felt a little betrayed that Miller wasn't actually the main character.
Besides Amos, I don't really care about the Roci crew. I had to wait until Ashford came along in Season 3 for a new favorite character.
All in all - Avasarala, Bobby and Drummer carried the series for me.
Yes, the Expanse is wonderful ... I miss it TBH. As "blasphemous" as it might be here, I'd be more excited for a new Expanse series than new a Trek series.
You may have heard already, but give the show 3-4 episodes before you give up on it.
I was told this and I recall a specific moment even where I felt myself switch from, "this is fine" to "ok I like this". May not be that way for everyone, but give it 3-4 episodes.
Also, and others have said this, each season is different with a different vibe, however that alters your viewing.
They'd need to reduce the time jump between books 6 and 7 to make another series work. I think where they ended it was a really good point. That said I would love to have seen like a fucking valkyrie on screen.
Unfortunately it ends with an unresolved cliffhanger. Although I feel like they dropped enough hints that you could kind of imagine how the next season would go.
Don't let that stop you. The show sputters here and there, but the story is intriguing. Anyone that complains has clearly never seen seasons 1 & 2 of ST:TNG, and Dark Matter's entire run is only 39 eps.
And with all due respect to Brent Spiner, Zoie Palmer as the android is *fantastic*.
I have mixed feelings on AC. I really loved the first season. Beautiful cinematography, amazing acting (Joel Kinnaman is incredible), great concept and plot. Pacing could’ve been a little better, but it really evoked that Blade Runner vibe in a cool way.
Season 2 didn’t really resonate with me :/ Felt like a cheap Marvel movie.
For All Mankind is by the same writer as ds9/bsg and is pretty entertaining. There's some bad personal drama, but the space and alternative timeline stuff is good.
I love, love, love For All Mankind! I didn’t put it on the list, I think of it more as a drama than a Sci Fi show. I didn’t realize it’s the same writer as DS9/BSG! Small world
I think the personal drama is just fine in For All Mankind, but if you are looking only for the "science" part and not the "fiction" (i.e. stories about humans), I can see why it would be annoying or feel like it's taking valuable time away from what you are there to watch.
I agree. It was an interesting story that just never went anywhere. They kept going in different directions. It's like that south park episode where the manitee write the show at random.
I agree as well. I always did like Andromeda, but I'd be the first to admit it is wildly inconsistent in everything from quality to story.
From what I hear the inconsistencies were partly due to Kevin Sorbo both producing the show and playing the main character in the later seasons - leading to story decisions being dictated by his ego rather than anything else.
Despite all that, there is still good stuff to be had in that show.
The Mandalorian is probably the best star wars show out there at the moment. There is a world-of-the-week vibe to it, but like most modern shows the primary focus is on the overarching plot and characters that recur. That said, if you liked Andor I think you'll thoroughly enjoy The Mandalorian.
If you like animated shows, Futurama is a classic. If you want something a bit more obscure and odd, Final Space is a good and funny show too. That's starting to stray pretty far away from Star Trek other than it taking place in space though.
Mandalorian didn't really click for me until several episodes in. I feel like Pedro Pascal took a typical, surface-level Star Wars script and made the character amazing, though - I watch mostly for him, rather than the writing.
Damn that show starts off slow - most people can't get past season one. But holy heck does it have an amazing team writing the plots. I thoroughly enjoyed that show. And it's so underrated. I know I never watched it much when it was on air weekly with new episodes
I binged all 10 seasons and while the last couple were a drag to get through, I totally enjoyed it. The episodic format is great.
Also enjoyed Atlantis though I was skeptical of it and the characters at first, but they really grew on me.
I also enjoyed Universe but it was more of a dark, gritty show along the same vein as BSG. It got canceled pretty quickly so there isn't much to get into though.
Yeah, I never watched Atlantis. My ol' friend who recommended SG-1 (years ago) said the other series weren't worth watching, but maybe he just meant Universe. What was wrong with Universe?
I just watched some YouTube clips of Atlantis and saw Colm Meaney makes some appearances. So.. adding to the list!
The optimal way to watch Stargate, and the way it originally aired, is alternating episodes of SG-1 and Atlantis starting with the former's season 8 and the latter's season 1.
Universe had a drastic tone and characterization change from the other Stargate shows, it's much more tonally similar to Battlestar Galactica than Stargate. SG-1 and Atlantis are about competent professionals who enjoy each others' company, while Universe is about a bunch of petulant children who hate and are constantly scheming against each other.
Earth Final Conflict is also an interesting series. It was developed by Roddenberry, and produced by Majel Barret. I enjoyed watching it when it was in syndication.
Thanks for these recommendations! I actually never watched X-Files, and a friend of mine binge watched all of it earlier this year and was sending me funny clips. I should add it to the list.
LOVED Station Eleven. It might be a top 5 show of all time.
The first episode felt like a slog until that last minute. Partially ‘cause we were kinda living that pandemic.
But I was absolutely hooked and psyched to see more. And every episode after was “holy crap!” moments through to the very end.
Some of the best storytelling I’ve seen on TV. Really rich character development and such a beautiful concept altogether. It made me really hopeful.
Same writer/creator as The Leftovers (which I also recommend, very cool show - 3 seasons with an ending, gets progressively weirder and wilder).
"Can not run out of time. There is infinite time. You are finite. Zathras is finite. This...is wrong tool... No... No, not good. No... Never use that."
If you like SG1 you should checkout Travelers on Netflix. It was created by one of the SG1 co-creators, Brad Write. The first 2 seasons are really good.
I didn't mention Travelers in my watched list because it's not very 'Star Treky', but I absolutely adored the series. It had some faults, but really clever writing, well thought-out characters, great acting, cool story. I still think about it. Did you not like Season 3? Enrico Colantoni was brilliant. Also loved him in Station Eleven.
I know they were trying to wrap up stories but the plot lines started to feel rushed in season 3, like everything with the historians. And it seemed off being able to communicate directly with the Director.
Silo on AppleTV is really good. Compelling story and great character development. Not exactly in the same lane as Star Trek, but I really enjoyed the sci-of theme and mystery of it.
Definitely watch the rest of the Stargate movies and then get into Atlantis. The Stargate series is very much Star Trek but with a more grounded premise. Yeah there are aliens out there, but the majority of the powers are not interested in getting along with these plucky Earthlings.
Also seconding the SyFy shows, especially Eureka and Dark Matter. Eureka is much more comedic and optimistic than the usual science fiction show. About 5 seasons and was given the chance to end properly. Dark Matter is, well, dark. Opposite of the Star Trek universe, but has great character arcs and plot lines. Absolutely worth watching the 3(?) seasons even if it ends on a cliff hangar.
Try Farscape again and see if you can get to the end of the first series. It shifts majorly then when the main villian for the rest of the show turns up and the tone shifts darker and more serialised. It's one of my favourite sci-fis of all time.
@andthenthreemore@startrek Good one — I’d also recommend the Hornblower series (although they are nowhere as good as the books IMO). Supposedly Roddenberry once described Star Trek as “Hornblower in space”.
(But really, read the books — the character in the novels is fascinatingly complex, an introvert full of self-doubt who is also incredibly talented.)
This might be a reach out of /10, but my wife and I are about a dozen episodes into "Deadwood" (HBO Western from the early 2010's?) and I can't help but let her in on how it reminds me of DS9 in how every character is fleshed out in this backwater outpost. It's so good. Naturally she just looks at me like I'm speaking some dead language, but for any DS9 fans, cheggitout
If you're not attached to the books (I haven't read them), Foundation does a pretty excellent take on space opera. Multiple interesting planets/ships/technologies/characters. One/three/four(?) REALLY fantastic villain/villains. It's not a 10/10, but I enjoyed it. First season of Silo was also pretty okay. But not really comparable to Star Trek exactly beyond both being sci-fi.
Movie recommendation: Run Silent, Run Deep. It's a WW2 Pacific theater submarine movie with Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster. But it's directed by Robert Wise (Star Trek: TMP) and the story beats will be recognizable by fans of both TMP and Wrath of Khan. It also focuses pretty heavily on the lower decks crew.
I really enjoyed the stargate movie, but the series was not for me.
I get hard low budget 90s tv feelings from it.
Possible spoilers below….
They recast two great actors in the movie with people who look and act nothing like they did in the movie. I heard they later joked about it and fixed it, but I couldn’t not get that far