European leaders call for stronger defence ties after Trump’s Nato remarks
European leaders call for stronger defence ties after Trump’s Nato remarks
Polish PM Donald Tusk says ‘all for one, and one for all’ in thinly veiled riposte to Republican frontrunner
European leaders have called for greater unity and military cooperation across the continent in response to comments from Donald Trump that threatened to undermine the basis of Nato.
Donald Tusk, Poland’s prime minister, said on a visit to Paris on Monday that there was “no alternative” to the EU and the transatlantic alliance before a summit in which he discussed deepening defence relationships with the French president, Emmanuel Macron.
“It is probably here in Paris that the words from The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas resonate most clearly: ‘All for one, and one for all,’” said Tusk, in a thinly veiled riposte to the former US president and frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.
At what point does this guy become such a liability, that the CIA carries out "Operation Orange Peel"?
67Hopefully Secret Service is keeping tabs on this guy and microphoned his hair flap.
12You don't think the CIA is on his side? His aims seem aligned with theirs.
9To a point. The CIA suddenly lost a lot of human assets in 2021. At around the same time, the National Archives had been asking Trump to please kindly return all the classified documents he has at Mar-a-Lago. We don't know for sure that one led to the other, but the CIA has to be thinking about it.
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America is quickly loosing the strong leadership persona it's held for decades due to the utter stupidity of its leaders (both former and current). Biden has been lax on his oversight, but in fairness to him he had a shitshow to contend with in dealing with the fallout from Jan 6.
Come Nov Americans had better figure it out before everything it's worked for goes spinning down the drain.
27Biden is fine. It's your fascist problem we're worried about.
Sincerely,
Europe68I think it probably started with George W. Bush and especially the way he reacted to 9/11. The way they've been winding back those mistakes has been milquetoast at best.
Terrorists win.
5Loosing isn't the right word
2How convenient for countries that consider the USA unfriendly.
Hey didn't that Tucker guy just have an interview with Putin? What now?
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It should have been clear 7 years ago that Europe can't rely on US any more. Hoping US will become a rational partner again and dragging their feet on real action is probably equal part inertia and corruption. Hopefully they will wake up sooner than they did with Russia and energy independence.
25Republicans have become pawns of Putin. They will never be reliable for anything but obstruction
12You're not wrong; Angela Merkel outright said it about 6 years ago. I can't find a reference right now, but I believe she even clarified that this conclusion had been building even before Trump was in office.
11Hoping US will become a rational partner again
Unlikely, 40% of our country supports a seditionist authoritarian.
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Trump and conservatives, eroding the U.S. global position every day.
Making the country weaker on the global table, while also making it poorer, less capable, and generally less stable.
20ETO: European Treaty Organization. Cut the US out and problem solved.
No longer following imperialistic US foreign policy in the name of collective defense.
15I dunno, Marine Le Pen and others are also casting a shadow over Europe. Keep voting for strong candidates to keep the likes of her and the AFD out. It's very important the world weather this storm.
20Orban is no prize, as another example. But it sounds like Poland turned things around in the last election?
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Small note, make it ETO‘O: European Treaty Organisation Operations.
3The good thing about outsourcing military might to another country like the USA has had pretty great social effects in European countries. Lower militarism, higher amount of resources put to actually useful things.
But I guess nothing can last forever.
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Trump is doing a great job!
... At cutting the US out of the world, which won't crash our economy at all.
14He's doing a great job bringing the world together. Against him. What a leader!
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Isn't this exactly what Trump wants?
2The main reason Trump is saying these things is that it's already abundantly clear that every country in Europe will be hitting their NATO funding target in the next few years anyway. They've all made plans to that effect anyway. So Trump can make it look like he did it, when in reality it had already been decided.
7Thanks for the clear explanation, I wasn't aware.
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That's the smart move. The US was never really a dependable ally, but at least in the past the problem was just that it was generally focused more on its own interests over the good of the organization as a whole.
At this point though, it's plain that Trump and his Republican allies are an actual threat - that their ultimate goal is alliance with Russia, even against their former allies.
The thing is that Russia, as a militaristic, kleptocratic surveillance state, is a much closer match for the ideals of the Republicans. European social democracies represent everything that the Republicans are trying to stamp out. And they do fully intend to do everything they can to stamp it out, even including military action if it comes to that, both at home and abroad.
Europe needs to be prepared for that.
1Their armies and NATO want more money every single year. They've been crying wolf for decades. Trump is just the newest excuse.
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-123rd party 2024Split the vote 2024 andend this bullshitgive conservatives a landslide winFTFY. I don’t like Biden. I’d rather have a fucking llama in office. But every vote pulled from Biden in favor of a 3rd party is a de facto vote for conservatives.
You want 3rd party to be a viable vote? Vote for democrats who support ranked voting.
8I kinda had hopes for capital L Libertarians but oh man those guys are a special kind of nuts.
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