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Delta_V @lemmy.world

1y ago

don't let your guard down

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If Guard 2 didn't mean it when he said sorry that counts as a lie right?
- If Guard 2 is the one that lies, that means they can't have apologized
  
  Plot twist: it turns out I was a guard the whole time!
  
  Liars say they're sorry way more than people who tell the truth, I've found.
- If Guard 1 is a liar, that means they are both liars.

This would be a pretty amusing encounter I think.
Mage: "Uggghh... well I translated the inscription on the door. We have to resolve their quarrel to dispell the magic lock."
Bard: "So hey fellas, my party and I saw you from across the dungeon..."

Not gonna lie, I thought guard 2 was mario...

I like the referenced riddle because you can't "fully" solve it, in the sense that you know all the information. You can figure out which path to take (which solves the riddle) but you cannot simultaneously know who lies and who tells the truth, which gives the riddle a bit of an unresolved feel. (I'm assuming it's one yes-no question only.)

"you ever fuck this guy's wife?"
- Iiiii forgiiiive you!

Something that has always bothered me with the "one of us tells the truth, the other one lies" conundrums is couldn't you just ask a simple question with a known answer to check who's who? Something like "what's 1+1" or even a logic question like "if A is true and B is true, is the condition of A AND B true or false?"
- The full riddle limits you to one question.
  
  Either of their proposed questions should still immediately tell you which door is which, though.
  What would be really fun is determining which door tells the truth, then coming back periodically and asking it questions about how the setting's metaphysics work, or where an important NPC is at the moment, or what the BBEG's weakness is.
- Yes, that would let you know if the one you asked tells the truth or lies. But IIRC those riddles are usually constructed such that that is not enough to solve them. For example, sometimes there are more than two people that you need to identify. Or you need to find the correct door amongst multiple. All with a single question to one of the people.
  
  Tim, the third guard who stabs people who ask tricky questions.
- with a lot of these riddles you don't get to ask a question, you can only listen to their statements to determine who is telling the truth.

Ask either do you have a nose, the one that always tells the truth has to say yes, the one that always lies has to say no.
- That's where the clause about having just one question comes into play.
  
  You only need one answer here
- Ok, so you used your one question finding that out, now how do you find out which door is safe now that you're out of questions?
  
  What doors? Post doesn't mention any doors.

Perhaps they both lie, whenever it is convenient for them, including lying about lying, but also about not lying? :-P
And if they upgrade to the Premium package (by becoming politicians), they gain the talent allowing them to lie without ever managing to say anything at all... even while using very many words to obfuscate that fact.:-D

Ask the guy asking the question „do I have to point out who is who in order to pass through?“

Couldnt you just ask:
"Tell me which door is safe while using a sinonim of truth"
Or
"Tell me a sinonim of truth while precising which door is correct"
- The traditional solution is to ask which door the other guard would say is safe. The response will always be the dangerous door.
- I like your thinking but I hate your spelling.
  Synonym.
  
  Sorry, i confused it with the romanian word "sinonim"

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