The prospect of a second Trump presidency has the intelligence community on edge
The prospect of a second Trump presidency has the intelligence community on edge
Trump sought major changes at the intel agencies in his first term; former officials say he could be more radical in a second.
Former top officials from Donald Trump’s administration are warning he is likely to use a second term to overhaul the nation’s spy agencies in a way that could lead to an unprecedented level of politicization of intelligence.
Maybe they could do something
48Nah, they only do something when there's a prospect of a socialist democracy rejecting American corporate interests... because the military industrial complex and entire intelligence apparatus is a tool of capitalism.
Corporations aka "the economy" = "national security"
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Trump, who already tried to revamp intelligence agencies during his first term, is likely to re-up those plans — and push even harder to replace people perceived as hostile to his political agenda with inexperienced loyalists, according to interviews with more than a dozen people who worked in his administration.
This is why fascism always fails despite all its posturing about being "strong". People in top positions are chosen for loyalty to the leader first and basic competence second. Then those people are turned against each other to make sure they never accumulate enough power under themselves to directly challenge the leader. This is exactly what happened to Nazi intelligence, and British intelligence ran circles around them.
It never works in the long run, but they can take down everything around them in the short to medium run.
45Dan Carlin did a wonderful show about why the German army of WWI was much better than the Wehrmacht. And his argument can be summarized as “Do you really think Falkenhayn or Ludendorff would have tolerated Goering for 5 minutes before firing him on the spot?”
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Cheeto Benito just outs intelligence assets on a whim, him being in charge makes us less safe in many ways. He is proof we are an unreliable ally.
37America has been rendered effectively schizophrenic.
20Biden is as appealing to the public as taking haldol. Surely there must be a better way.
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yeah...the last 50 years wasn't the proof, no....Hey remember what happened to allies like Iraq and Afghanistan?
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Where are the assassin-spies then? If they're so nervous... do something about it? We all know you can. NSA, if you're listening...
15where are all the assassins…
History suggests they’re probably all Republican.
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To everyone suggest he gets JFKd...
I bet you it's on the table. And the intelligence communities are weighing on how much of a martyr it'll make him/if it'll spark a civil war.
15Just keep feeding him burgers until he chokes. No one would be the wiser.
7Andrew Lloyd Webber should team up with Mike Judge to write the musical, Idiocracy Superstar.
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Maybe they should share some intelligence
10Asking honestly: do you think doing so would change anything?
4Possibly, but it would ultimately depend on what news outlets pick it up. The die hard fox watchers / newsmax / OANN etc are lost causes. However, with independents, a constant reminder of new fuckery is good press to help remind people that he's shittier than anyone can imagine.
Realistically, and sadly, it probably would never make it to or sink into the heads of folks that really matter.
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Ok, then do something about it
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The way I see it, if the Americans end up picking a president who ranked among the bottom 5 presidents of all times, it's their own fault for doing so and they should enjoy the consequences of that.
8The issue is, that the rest of the World will also "enjoy" the consequences of that, because you can't just ignore 300 Million people...
8It's a fair point but I think the world is getting better at and more prepared to do so. The rest of the world can easily ignore 300mil people. We do it with many others. It's the fact that it's the US that makes it harder to ignore. IMO Trump was the trigger that inspired countries ans allies to cut or limit dependencies on single countries like the US, China and Russia.
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Fairly certain the not-so-intelligent community is just cheering him on, though.
3(Reads article) Wait....remember when the Deep State was called conspiracy bullshit?
1Ditto the intelligent community.
1Damn, I guess the Democrats should put up a strong candidate.
-16You mean like the incumbent president who is far and away objectively better than Trump?
28And, as I have to keep reminding people, the only person who has actually beaten Trump before.
1I would hope that the Democrats have someone better than a president that, not only ignores the genocide going on in Gaza, but is actively contributing to the continuation of that genocide.
Edit: This is the main reason why I am so reluctant to consider voting for Biden.
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Biden is the strongest polling candidate against Trump
15The way I am going to go into this election is to vote 3rd party. If trump wins, he will either have a very underwhelming term and lose his fanbase or completely destroy the government and break the status quo. Assuming he goes the extreme route, the US will either rise up and competely reform the government or we had no hope of that ever happening in the first place. I'm tired of voting for the lesser evil.
Edit: Disliking this comment is cool and all, but I'd like to actually hear why people disagree. I am willing to change my mind if an adequate reason is provided. For anyone saying there will be domestic pain if Trump is elected, I am living in the US as well. This will also open the eyes of people who think politics are separate from their lives.
Edit2: Thanks for responding, I really appreciate the given perspectives. I am not a politics major, so I know there is always more I can learn.
Edit3: Thank you to those who provided legitimate reasoning and sources. It looks like the only viable option is to avoid a repeat of history, where the minority Nazi party ended up running Germany, by voting for Genocide Joe. God I hate this bs political system.
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