It feels like Nintendo doesn’t want us to play older games until they say we can...

They don't even "lose money" in either scenario. They just don't make new money.

Nintendo: "How about you don't play those old games and buy our new games instead."

They don’t even lose money, they just don’t earn any.

This is why pirating games that aren't available to be bought anymore is never wrong

they dont really "lose" money regardless

they just dont gain money, which they could have gained... if emulation wasn't super fucking easy and also fuck nintendo

Nintendo is run by old Japanese men who don't understand technology. They still use faxes ffs when conducting business-critical decisions.

If you asked Shigeru Miyamoto "What is a ROM" he's probably reply: "Is it 2.3cm Cashew San?"

You’re supposed to wait until they re-release it on a new console with the same graphics for $70, then pay for it then, dummy.

For a company who brags about not going to have issue even if they're not making even a penny for years to come, they sure trying their best to get every penny they can.

I'm sooo tired of hearing about bad companies being shitty to their consumers and then watching thousands post about how wholesome and sweet Nintendo is and sharing their new animal crossing themed butthole tattoo to honor them.

Stop paying these pricks and just pirate their stuff.

Big Ninten doesn't want you to play Paper Mario TTYD. You should be playing Origami King, it's new and exciting while TTYD is old and obsolete. They are both Paper Mario, they are basically the same game anyway but only until we want to suggest it's a brand new upgrade to the previous game

Doesn't lose them money, the used game woudn't make them money anyway which is why they lobbied to try and make reselling used games require a royalty or be illegal for years before everything became digital.

As for emulation they lie and call emulation itself illegal (the copies may be but emulation itself is not) because then they can't pull a disney and "vault" old games on their digital storefronts and make you buy it again when they decide to just up shut down the previous server when they launch the next console.

They don't want us to own the things we pay for. They want us to rent them while not realizing it.

I'm almost convinced Nintendo wants to erase the legacy of PM:TYD. Like it's definitely the game that took the most chances with the Mario universe, and in the Japanese version especially, it pushed the limits of what was acceptable in media at the time, and would probably be a difficult game to navigate rereleasing in today's climate. Probably the same reasons we likely won't see an official Mother 3 localization either.

Remember the Disney Vault?

Pirating games is kinda a pain in the ass these days and I don't even bother on PC

But I will pirate as much from Nintendo as possible. From their price fixing in the 80s and 90s to hostility towards people who want to buy games to people not even being able to get games they've paid for...

Fuck Nintendo

When Nintendo started Virtual Console, I was really impressed, because instead of fighting emulation, they embraced it and made money off of it. All of these old games were just potential profit that they were sitting on. On top of that, they even managed to get games from non-Nintendo consoles onto VC!

Then, they discontinued it, and I'm sitting here, scratching my head and trying to figure out why. Nintendo is a strange company. They have an undeniably awesome product and very talented and creative developers, but also pretty bone-headed management.

More companies should do like id Software and open-source their games after a set amount of time.

Copyright in Japan seems to be even more of a nightmare as it already is in the west.

Honestly most people who use emulation probably own a copy of the games they emulate. It actually is possible to legally obtain a ROM or iso of a Nintendo game, despite how bad Nintendo wants you to believe it isn't. You are allowed to back up software that you purchased. Do most people do it the legal way? Probably not. But effectively I think it's all the same.

Wanna make money off your old games? Release an upgraded version. Put in the content that was left on the cutting room floor and up the resolution. Or just sell it as an emulator pack with the bare minimum requirements for it to function on the console like they did with 3D all Stars. People will probably still buy it.

The real pain is that several sources seem to say that the Thousand Year Door is arguably the best Paper Mario. I missed out on it when it came out, so the only choice I have if I want to play it is to Monkey D. Luffy it. Which to be honest, I'll probably do.

you lose money regardless

Except Nintendo does not lose any money either way.

Nintendo is the Disney of video games.

They want to take their content and squirrel it away in their vault, so for like 10 minutes you can buy the emulated recreation of some obscure title on some future platform where it's digitally tied to the device and the online Nintendo store you bought it from, so when the console inevitably breaks or the store is shut down, you lose access.

All of this for a premium cost for a decades old game of dubious quality that only has value because of your nostalgia.

So stop emulating games so Nintendo can decide when they will gift you with the privilege of paying far too much for a game they didn't make, which has a life expectancy, which will expire when they want it to.

Also piracy is bad! So stop it.

you gotta wait until they release the exact same emulator on the switch with the new switch online expansion pack plus premium ultra 3D bonus pass

I mean lots of media has always worked that way. Build up the nostalgia to increase what people are willing to pay. Before VHS, Disney would lock up their movies and bring them out to theaters every couple of decades making way more money than if they put it on TV. It drives demand. And they think it should be their decision whether to satisfy that demand or not.

I literally had to look for a patched Chrono Trigger Rom with Spanish translations bcuz nor Square Enix, nor Nintendo ever released it with spanish dialogues in mind. Now my little sister is able to enjoy it, and it is always thanks to the community that Nintendo despise. So as always fuck Nintendo as a corporate and most important:

Pirating as an alternative to paying as often as one can, even when the product is on offer by Nintendo or whoever, is usually very easy. It's the least we can all do in terms of class struggle.

More like "You'll spend your money when we tell you to"

NINTENDO REALLY SUCKS

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You could say...

NintenDON'T wanna see you playing old stuff

I only bought a switch because my hip was broken and so was my gaming PC. I wanted something to do while I was laid up on the couch.

I have already had my pro controller die on me forcing me to use just the switch controllers it came with. That’s really annoying. I’m paying way over market price already for a proprietary game device since I thought Nintendo has really good quality. The quality in my experience doesn’t justify the price of the controller.

I don’t feel bad at all if they lose a little bit of money as a result of any of their crappy businesses decisions. You can argue the games are great and they are but it doesn’t justify how the company behaves and if I could go back I wouldn’t have given them any money at all.

There’s a flip side to this that I’ve found; until recently I have never had any desire to buy a Switch, ‘There’s Mario Kart and that’s all’ is what I thought. Then I obtained a few Switch games to play on an emulator and ooh boy is the temptation real now. I’ve been playing Zelda (the newest one and my first Zelda game), Luigi’s Mansion and of course Mario Kart. Piracy has me sweating every time I see a Switch on sale.

The games aren't being sold anymore and so it's not affecting Nintendo. Hence what's the point?

Dang, I sure am glad I pirated like every Nintendo rom N64 and prior a long time ago before they started purging everything.

I believe it does actually cut into profits, because they te release every popular game every X years