Snipers from the 25th Airborne Brigade dropping Russians

Man, every time I see videos like that, my heart breaks. Those are actual human beings with families, loved ones, hopes and dreams... (I know Russia does much worse things to the other side, but that doesn't change the feeling. Most conscripts are just brainwashed cannon fodder :()

Fuck war so much...

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This is more than misguided. These are serial killers who are invading, stealing, torturing and raping children, and destroying everything they can. There's nothing better than removing them from the world, and a war to do that is a just war. Fuck russians.

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- Article 1
  
  All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
  
  Article 2
  
  Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
  
  Article 3
  
  Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
  
  [...]
  
  Article 10
  
  Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
  
  Article 11
  
  Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
  
  [...]
  
  Guess where this is coppied from ...
  
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- Careful. It's these thoughts that lead to worse. They're combatants and as those valid targets that can be killed if necessary.
  
  As soon as you dehumanize someone as like say an Ork, killing them becomes "easy" and may appear as no big deal. As simple as exterminating vermin. (I am using phrases of nazi Germany on purpose here). And just like that you end up being just as bad as them. Yes many of them have done very bad things. That's terrible and they need to be punished. Outside of the battlefield there are courts for this. On the battlefield there are rules of war and if UA wants to join NATO and be a brother among equals with the western civilizations, they need to act and think civilized. I believe many are acting as professional as possible in the circumstances they're in.
  
  Attacking someone for just stating that's terrible a human had to lose his life because of this war is concerning to me. Don't we all want this war to end, Ukraine to be free and whole again? Or are we lusting for as many Russians to be killed as possible? They came to kill as many Ukrainians as possible. Do we want the same for them? How are "we" any better than them if we do?
  
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- This is pushing it. Sympathy for russian combatants will not be tolerated here, but, calling for the mass annihilation of russians is on the opposite end of the spectrum. Be happy Ukranians are just a little bit safer today. But cheer? No. Too much.
  
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- Even the worst human is still a human. You can't blame a person for lamenting the loss of a human life without losing your own humanity, in my opinion. Empathy saves lives.
  
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If it helps: their deaths were just.

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I've been watching the YouTube channel 1420 where they interview people on the streets of Moscow. Many of them are held hostage too. You can tell that they don't want to speak freely for fear of criminal punishment. One guy even said something to the effect of, "Why don't 100 Americans come over here and protest the war to see what happens." The Russian government quells any form of rebellious organization. To take Putin out of power, it's gonna have to come from the top or a sporadic mass protest after a Bloody Sunday a la 1917 Russian Revolution.

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- See: Kent State Massacre
  
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@Firipu @Wilshire No. There is internet access in Russia. Every russian knows what's going on.
No pity for the orcs. They come to murder.

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- That's a very simple way of putting things imo :)
  
  The west also has internet access. Some people still end up hateful/believing in flat earth/conspiracy theories.
  
  That doesn't mean they're bad people, just very misguided.
  
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- Many are literally forced to be there under threat of death or jail.
  
  War is war, Ukraine is doing what they need to, but these are people, and if you told me you would 100% guaranteed not be in Ukraine if you were some random poor fuck who grew up in Russia and got conscripted I'd say you were full of shit. You don't know.
  
  Be thankful you don't have a shitty oppressive government like this and do your part to make sure it stays that way, else one day your kids might be used as pawns and called "orcs".
  
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- Internet ≠ Internet. It’s heavily censored and monitored in Russia. They don’t have access to all the information we do. Plus, all other media are brainwashing them with propaganda. Makes it hard to believe if some website tells a completely different story.
  
  However, there are those who stay informed and don’t support the war. They just can’t do it openly.
  
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what can i say except quote general Sherman:

War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out.

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- And then sadly the people who actually started the war all got off scot-free and went right back to setting up sharecropping and Jim Crow.
  
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Would they not pull the trigger all the same if the situations were reversed?

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- Oh yeah, absolutely. And I'd feel horrible for the human being on the other side of the scope... I'm talking about the actual human being with a life being killed. Not the politics behind it.
  
  That doesn't mean I'm justifying the atrocities Russia commits or even remotely support their unprovoked attack. Russia is the bad guy, no discussion. But they're still humans and I can still feel bad for the needless loss of human life.
  
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Ugly, justified, but you need respect the professionalism.

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He almost sounds... unhappy? Frustrated? After he takes the first shot and is reloading. This sounds like a guy who doesn't love what he has to do, but knows it needs to happen. I can respect that on a human level.

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Weirdest part of this (y'know, other than the presence of Russian terrorists in Ukraine) is the birds chirping. Two bangs from an extremely loud rifle, and they just carry on like nothing happened.

...or is the audio replaced for opsec or something?

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Possibly. The shooter is pretty far from the targets. Looks like at least a full second of flight time before impact. Most big bore rifles are at least 2400 feet per second, so the target is 800+ yards away. That's a hell of a difficult shot, and the way the cross hair is directly on the target leads me to believe this is a computerized scope which is compensating for bullet-drop and windage.

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- 2400 feet per second, so the target is 800+ yards away
  
  731.52+ meters for anyone wondering (2400 feet is apparently the same as 800 yards).
  
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