GitLab confirms it’s removed Suyu, a fork of Nintendo Switch emulator Yuzu

www.theverge.com GitLab confirms it’s removed Suyu, a fork of Nintendo Switch emulator Yuzu

“GitLab received a DMCA takedown notice,” it confirmed.

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Is it 100% confirmed now that the DMCA is from Nintendo themselves? I find it weird that they'd go after (initially small) forks when Ryujinx exists.

The Suyu team also hosts their code under https://git.suyu.dev, so I wouldn't exactly call it dead (yet).

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- There is no confirmation that this came from Nintendo, nor does it list the actual infringing parts like a normal takedown request should.
  
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- I'm glad Suyu wants to carry on the legacy of Yuzu. Many forks are just reuploads of yuzu with no new commits.
  
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I mean, if you're going to scream "I'm doing this!" as loud as you can, it's not a surprise when you get noticed.

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- That was the intention. Even the name Suyu is to bring more eyes
  
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  So it was all for show?
  
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Now I need to consider Gitea and Codeberg. Thanks for the reminder GitLab.

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- Don't use Gitea, use Forgejo - it's a hard fork of Gitea after Gitea became a for-profit venture (and started gating their features behind a paywall).
  
  Codeberg has switched to Forgejo as well.
  
  Also, there's some promising progress being made towards ActivityPub federation in Forgejo! Imagine a world where you can comment on issues and send/receive pull requests on other people's projects, all from the comfort of a small homeserver.
  
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  ActivityPub integration on git remote repos sounds very interesting. Thanks for sharing that, I'll definetely take a look at Codeberg/Forgejo.
  
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  Can't wait for forge federation, it's super annoying that I need an account for each individual instance just to report a bug
  
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  What features are paywalled?
  
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  radicle.xyz checks those boxes, but it's gossip protocol, not activitypub.
  
  Still cool, though.
  
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- They're required to take down content following a DMCA takedown request. It's up to the uploader to counterclaim if they're so inclined, at which point they're able to put it back up.
  
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- codeberg also removes piracy related projects... gitea is certainly an option tho
  
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  Self-hosting Forgejo is a way to go.
  
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Just torrented it out of spite. I don't even care about the system...I own one and I don't play it because they got the A and B buttons backwards (that's a joke)

Edit: also, everyone should see this.

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- they got the A and B buttons backward
  
  I can't tell if you're joking or what
  
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  I have permanent Xbox brain, so I'd say they made an oopsie daisy even though I grew up on SNES
  
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  What is arguably even more egregious is having X/Y backwards. On a graph, X is the horizontal axis, Y is the vertical axis. Xbox got it right.
  
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- Yeah! You sure showed them!
  
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Why TF would you put it on gitlab instead of hosting your own forejo instance?

I swear, some people are just too eager to get in headlines rather than thinking things through.

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- if you put it on gitlab, you're not the one getting sued when they take it down
  
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  I am more saying it's not surprising Gitlab would take it down.
  
  For example. With yt-dl /github they immediately went to a self hosted Gitlab instance. It wasn't simply a hasty move to the public Gitlab instance.
  
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- For all the free publicity when it gets taken down. They were probably hosting it six different ways already
  
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Codeberg next?

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- They already have their own Forgejo instance at git.suyu.dev
  
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No one wants Nintendo's wrath. Who can blame them.

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Not too surprising but still disappointing regardless. Self-hosting is the only way to go for this.

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- Another, even better way is IPFS.
  
  Regulators can take down your self hosted site. They cannot take it down if everyone has a piece of it (IPFS).
  
  Works just like torrents do. Spread it out, and no one can stop it.
  
  Still selfhosted, kind of, but by everyone.
  
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  Sounds like piracy with extra steps
  
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If someone needs the name of the next fork, I'd suggest "Yutu". (or Ettu)

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Permanently Deleted

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Still mad it isn't named 2zu

At least it seems suyu has devs now though

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- SuYu is a way better name given why it was created in the first place.
  
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- "sue-you". Suyu. it's a clever wordplay. i love it.
  
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So uhhh, what now

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- https://git.suyu.dev/suyu/suyu
  
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  That links to gitlab
  
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- another one will rise no doubt, either they use a platform that doesn't care for DMCA's or they play the whack-a-mole game with the enforcers
  
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  ironically suyu is still up on github
  
  and of course ryujinx hasn't received any legal threats yet
  
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- They will have to self-host their own Git instance.
  
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it's hosted elsewhere

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- Hail hydra
  
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We need federation of sourceforges FFS.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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- I've been seeing for a while comments like yours that put a license link at the end of the comment. Can you explain to me the benefits of doing that or is it makes any difference? If I'm not mistaken the content posted on a Lemmy instace adheres to the license that the instance is using.
  
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  It's purely for commercial AI on my end. Researchers have gotten LLMs to spit out their training data: street addresses, medical data, entire comments, and of course licenses.
  Some countries are still deciding whether commercial LLMs are infringing on copyright by training on copyrighted material without approval, others have already decided. I think the major economical zones that will impact legality will be the USA, EU, and China.
  
  Until a decision has been made, I'll continue adding the "free for all except commercial use" license.
  
  Also, copyright is very complicated. If you copy an entire article from a newspaper and paste it into a post on a lemmy instance, which license does it have? That of the newspaper or that of the lemmy instance? If it's the former, then what's the difference if it comes from your brain and not a newspaper? Would it make a difference if the comment were written first on a blog and then copied to lemmy? If it's the latter, then what's the point point of the newspaper or the author ever copyrighting it somewhere else if it can just be overridden?
  Next question regarding copyright, since comments are copied and stored on different servers, who would then own the copyright? The lemmy instance sending the comment or the one receiving it?
  
  I'm not a lawyer and probably things aren't clear cut. Might be one in one country and a different thing in another.
  
  CC BY-NC-SA 4.0
  
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Aren't there any git services hosted in countries like Russia?

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Isn't gitlab owned by M$?

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- GitHub is, Gitlab isn't
  
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  Alright understood 👍👍
  
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- They aren't you're thinking of Github, though Gitlab is far from immune to corporate corruption.
  
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