Farmed Bluefin Tuna Brands Claim to Be Sustainable. Here’s What Really Happens.

sentientmedia.org Farmed Bluefin Tuna Brands Claim to Be Sustainable. Here’s What Really Happens.

I hopped aboard a tuna tour to investigate what it takes to confine these majestic apex predators.

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Exploiting and killing animals will never be sustainable.

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- Why is that? Seems to have been sustained and even expanded for multiple millennia at this point.
  
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  Even thousands of years ago, it still involved great expense to the environment. Human arrivals on continents coincides with extinctions of megafauna
  
  https://ourworldindata.org/quaternary-megafauna-extinction
  
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  By that same logic, exploiting and killing humans is sustainable.
  
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I didn’t consider that they’d have to bring in the fish from elsewhere to feed them, that’s not sustainable at all.

Really we should be letting the free market do free market things and stop supplying as much fish, even if it does drive up prices. If you want the unsustainable fish, fine. Pay for it. Demand has to meet supply at some point.

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- I’ve actually run a computer model for this exact problem (overfishing in general, not tuna in particular).
  
  The problem with a market based solution is that the feedback loop is too delayed. By the time the catches start to drop enough to affect prices, you’re already driven the ecosystem to the point of collapse. The same is true for many natural resources and systemic effects like climate change. And all of the market dynamics that come into play push the players to maximize resource extraction/profits in the short term. That’s why we need to limit harvests and pollution via taxes and other regulations. It’s not a problem that a market can solve - it’s a problem that a market creates.
  
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  That’s really cool! I wish I had more time to respond but it’s late. I wasn’t arguing that it’s a good way to fix things, it’s really a last ditch effort. There’s a reason regulations exist and should continue to exist (part of my many issues with the right-wing politics in the USA if not elsewhere… but that’s off topic).
  
  That’s some really interesting insight into the issue at hand though, thank you!
  
  Lemmy is neat :)
  
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- We should not be "letting the free market" do anything.
  
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