Dude, what the fuck kind of comment is this?! I have no love for spez whatsoever, and would happily see him lose all his money and landed gentry status. But your comment is just unhinged.
I am yet another fledditor. I think I looked at nearly all the alternatives and I liked the Fediverse the best.
I do miss the sheer volume of participation on reddit, but I that has been steadily improving. And the quality and tone of the conversations is generally much better.
Any forums with large numbers of participants is going to have certain problems. The difference is that reddit turned most of those problems into institutions while Lemmy provides better ways to deal with them and easier ways to avoid them.
Having worked in high tech for almost four decades, I have come to appreciate the advantages of not having everything controlled by a central authority. Sooner or later the leadership, however benevolent, will change into something repressive and exploitive. Once that happens, it will remain that way forever, because there is no financial or political incentive to move in that direction. Replacement has been the only thing that works, at least so far. The Fediverse provides an alternative to that cycle that seems viable.
RiF was so good. It's how I interacted with reddit for a very long time. Now Jerboa but it's still not quite there. Although it's free and the devs are super awesome.
I didn't like the changes on Reddit with the API and suddenly charging for access. Turns out, I like it better here. Probably would have liked it before the Reddit refugee situation, too.
The 3rd party app closedown led to tons of weird niche subs showing up on popular, and their mods were quite silly, and several sub bans later, a complete ban for defending Palestine.
From what I've seen, that last bit might get you some negative responses here, too. Unless you picked your instance well, it might cause you trouble with your account, too.
I admit it should of been sooner, but I had to make two emails just to sign up for this. (I wanted to try Protonmail and for some reason you need a email to get email with them so you can email your emails.
Reddit banning third party apps was the last straw. Even though I didn't use them I supported the movement. I tried Tildes for a little while, but it didn't click for me. Lemmy works well and I don't feel it's as addictive as Reddit.
The appocalypse. I ain't using their bullshit first-party app and the site is garbage on mobile. I was looking for an alternative before that anyway, but because of it I heard about Lemmy (odd I didn't hear about it before though when I was searching specifically for a site like this).
Reddit API change. Reddit is unusable on mobile without 3rd party apps. I used Joey, which is one of the lesser known clients, so it kept working for quite a while. When it didn't anymore I deleted all of my posts and comments before I deleted my account.
Partly it was the API fiasco on Reddit, and partly it was Lemmy that drew me in, honestly.
I've left discussion/chat forums before over the years when technology moved on, or the quality of discourse declined, like FidoNet, Usenet, ISCA BBS, or Slashdot. I lived my life just fine without them. Reddit was a good COVID19 distraction for me, a way to stay connected to people using a low-data phone plan. I hadn't heard about 3rd party apps until the appocalypse. I knew that the Android app ran up the count in DuckDuckGo's App Tracking Protection, and the iPad app drained the hell out of my battery. (Seriously, I could watch a 2-hour movie on Netflix, and the battery would be at 96%. An hour of the Reddit app drained it to about 60%. Was it, like, live-streaming the view from my camera back to Reddit servers?) I tried Apollo less than two weeks before the shutdown, and it was marvelous. The quality of the discourse had become, just, bad, so I figured I'd just leave Reddit behind when it ceased to function.
But, I checked out Lemmy after reading about it. It was small and quaint. But, I checked it out again. And again. And again. Then, about a month after API Day, I signed up for an account and never looked back. (The big draw, I think, was users who view comments as a discussion, not as a form of verbal combat that you "win".)
There was a subreddit I used to be very active on that practically got nuked by the company during the protests. They kicked all of the mods off and replaced it with their own, leaving a huge mess behind.
A good number of them started over from scratch on Lemmy and I followed them here. Haven't really looked back since
Yeah API shit was the final straw, but it was a long time coming. Honestly I'd switch way sooner had there been any alternative. I and a lot of other people tried, but nothing ever really took off even though the systems were there.
It's about adoption, but mainstream adoption is also what kills a site like this.
A post on r/latestagecapitalism of a political cartoon mildly criticizing the spending for Ukraine war effort, it was the first time I really actually noticed a botted comment section. I noticed similar accounts clearly astroturfing the post and basically stopped using the platform that day.
The whole reason I found reddit to be useful was the discussion within the posts from real people with real opinions. If that's no longer the case then I can get the same aggregated content elsewhere. I can't use the site knowing the discussion is so influenced, at least on some level, in some subs. It's gross.
Like many I was a dedicated redditer. I had noticed a decline before the API fiasco, only viewing smaller subs, but momentum kept me there. No way I was going to use the default app/website though. Turns out I was more committed to Sync than reddit itself. Now Lemmy is my home and I keep a patched Sync for Reddit installed for the rare time a search result leads me there.
I liked my third-party app, so when it moved to Lemmy, I moved with it.
I also didn't like the reaction to losing it from many on the subs I used. Most had the opinion of "fuck them, I want to use my sub again", so I left Reddit and haven't gone back.
The apipocalypse same as everyone else. I do miss my niche communities, and my 4000+ internet points, but as an open source enthusiast (I use arch btw) I'm very much at home here 😁
During reddits API fiasco. Specifically the app I was using (boost) recommend everybody move to Lemmy and I obliged. Used jerboa but as soon as Boost for Lemmy was launched I immediately hopped on board. I hope the rest of reddit users comes to their senses. The protest was so utterly pathetic and cowardly.
I created my first account on sopuli.xyz on the 28th of April 2022, some days after leaving Twitter to join Mastodon, because I wanted to bring content to the fediverse (my ADHD brain wanted me to hyperfocus on the fediverse at that time).
I had almost exclusively used reddit through the Relay app since 2012 or something like that. Relay is still available actually, and I'd even be willing to pay for its subscription if most of the money went to the dev. I didn't like the idea of reddit making money off of a negative change they forced on me, it was bad enough that they trampled on the goodwill and efforts of the community.
Also I had used reddit since 2010, when it was much smaller. Most of reddit had grown too large, leaving only niche communities at a size where I felt it was worth interacting. I still miss some of the cooler small communities (and occasionally check on them through the API bypassing apps Geddit or Stealth), but Lemmy is generally at a size that I'm much happier to interact with.
I do not want my information filtered through an opaque algorithm. My worldview is much too important to surrender to some corporation. I want to understand and have some control over any feed I use. My media diet includes Lemmy, AP news, PubMed/science journals, and conversations with friends and coworkers.
I am very happy with Lemmy so far. Some have pointed out there is less content on Lemmy, but that is a bonus in my book. It is not healthy to spend hours scrolling.
Went to Mastodon when Musk took over at Twitter and so knew about Lemmy by the time Spez decided Musk had some great ideas about how to run a social media platform.
Years ago I was looking for alternatives. I was pissed at Reddit not banning my moderator account, even if they went out of the way to ban all my other accounts. That delivered a clear "we don't want you here... unless you're working for us, for free, you sucker" message that I was not willing to accept.
I was already on my way out of reddit before the API pricing changes, but not being able to use my choice of app was the final nail in the coffin. I had noticed just how much time I was spending looking at my phone doing nothing but scrolling through stuff, reading things I didn't care for. I spend so much time looking at screens as part of work, recreation, and socialising that I knew I needed to drop my usage. Return to monke.
Using federated services after going cold turkey for about 2 months, I now have a much healthier relationship with it. I like how its smaller and I don't get the feeling of missing out on something if I wasn't constantly checking. I started feeling calmer and generally happier.
Realistically, I just thought it would be slightly better, just because it was a little bit lesser known as a website, and I am consistently longing for older styles of internet engagement. The de-federated nature is nice, sure, but I really don't tend to care about that shit too much. Reddit had their whole api debacle, I'm sure old-reddit getting canned is on the table if not for apparently necessary moderation stuff that's still locked behind it. But I dunno, I still have browser extensions on mobile firefox that send me to a perfect libreddit redirect that works almost every time, so functionally it's sort of identical to what I was already doing, if not more convenient, because I don't have to deal with a reddit app substitute's search engine when I want to find stuff, I can just look it up, click on the link, blam, redirect. Not a big issue. The biggest problem for me with the API shit is that everyone decided to throw a bitch fit and completely delete their posts, so like a quarter of the things saved to this useful compilation of internet knowledge is kinda just gone. Except for unddit, but that shit's probably going to die at some point now that it doesn't serve a non-archival purpose.
With that said, I think I've found lemmy to be basically the exact same as reddit, give or take. It is just as relentlessly annoying as reddit is, and it has less diversity in terms of subject matter, as a whole. There's basically politics, i.e. inevitable "both-sides"-ism and vote shaming, technology stuff, i.e. stuff that is just linux, and like, assorted general posts, which are going to be comprised of either of the former two categories of thing, and gen-x pop culture references. Any other topic that comes up is a complete toss up, and will probably get commented on by a bunch of brainlets who think they know more than they do, but are actually just parroting the super standard talking points, or whatever they learned in high school.
You also get reddit posting habits, where people tend to mostly respond to the lowest effort meme posts, or horrible headlined news articles, rather than well-written posts or longer writeups. You also get that annoying thing where people just reply with sarcastic remarks that only serve their own self-satisfaction, instead of being critical of their own engagement for a half-second. I guess those are mostly just modern internet phenomenon in general, but it doesn't make it any less annoying, for sure.
The problem you will inevitably find with any forum organized around topics is that there's really just not that much to talk about, for most subject matters, so you either prevent communities from forming wholesale, or, more realistically, you just get insular garbage communities where people end up repeating almost the same exact conversations over and over. I think probably the unsung reasons that most old forums died isn't because of centralization, you know, digg and reddit, but it's because they all talked about everything already. Have a post? Oops, someone already asked that question in 2009, here's the thread, should've looked in the catalogue, you should go there, looks like it also never got answered and it's inactive, fuck you have a nice day. Reddit's only addition to that is the ability for people to post le relevant xkcd link, and we kinda already had/have somethingawful for that, for when you want to just talk, more than you wanna actually talk about something specific.
More seriously, I think my biggest problem is just that reddit, and by extension lemmy, kinda breaks the conventional format of the forum, in favor of something that kinda works less well but is more low-rent to engage with. Used to be that you would just browse a bunch of post titles, click on one, and get greeted with likely a huge customized post, maybe a compilation of all the past posts on a topic, maybe a couple links and natively hosted images thrown in there for good measure. Most reddit posts are just like, a single article, or a single video of something stupid happening. That's a major downgrade, imo.
The Reddit API nonsense. Truth be told though, I used to go back for a few very specific subs but the site had gotten so bad that I cannot bring myself to use it any more
I always like to jump ship to open source projects, I ditched Facebook back in like 2010 for Disaspora and Frendica. Once I found out about Lemmy it was just a matter of time before I jumped ship, because that's just how I roll.
I was banned for helping others with their Calculus homework. I figured since the answer was given in the post, that it was allowable to post the steps for the integration problem. I was wrong. They banned me.
My first account on lemmy.ml was 4 years ago. I like the idea of Lemmy and federated reddit alternatives and am not looking for a drop in replacement and am happy to try new things.