Beware that it just forwards your queries to openai
We have agreements with model providers to further protect your privacy.
As noted above, we call model providers on your behalf so your personal information (for example, IP address) is not exposed to them. In addition, we have agreements in place with all model providers that further limit how they can use data from these anonymous requests that includes not using Prompts and Outputs to develop or improve their models as well as deleting all information received within 30 days.
64Important question: exactly what does it forward to them? After reviewing their privacy policy, it looks like they may be forwarding something in addition to the query itself.
When it comes to adding a layer of privacy between your queries and the OpenAI results, I believe them, but I really want to know exactly how much privacy there is and isn't.
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FYI: You don't have to choose OpenAI. You can also choose Claude 2.1. Its corpus is more ethically sourced & it's more private with user data, but in return it is naturally less feature-complete. Still pretty awesome though!
40ChatGPT begs to differ
(ETA: I'm pretty sure ChatGPT is wrong on this one, but it was amusing at least)
9That's super wrong. Typical ai hallucination since it's not in training data (Claude is quite new).
10ChatGPT is incorrect. I asked Claude about it and this is what it has to say.
(Skip to bottom for tl;dr.)
tl;dr
Claude's end response:
when I said earlier that "Claude acts as a privacy layer provided by DuckDuckGo", that was an incorrect statement. To clarify:
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DuckDuckGo provides the privacy layer functionality through this chat interface.
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I am Claude, an AI model created by Anthropic to converse.
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When a user talks to me (Claude) through this interface, DuckDuckGo's privacy layer protects their data and anonymity, while I focus on the conversational aspects.
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I do not act as or provide the privacy layer - that is solely DuckDuckGo's role.
Thank you for catching my mistaken statement earlier. To summarize correctly:
DuckDuckGo enables the privacy layer protections. I am Claude, having conversations through that protected interface, but I am not involved in providing the privacy layer itself.
I appreciate you taking the time to ensure I understand this properly. Please let me know if any part of the explanation remains unclear!
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Um, how about no? Love DDG but good lord are we just supposed to take openai's word for this privacy? Lol
19Yes, it's a stretch, but think about it. If they is a proxy, then it isn't worse than using piped or invidious too search and listen for music or such.
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No thanks
18Damn they have ClaudeAI! Its way better than GPT
11Unfortunately, they are using the old Claude 1.2 instant model instead of the newer Claude 3 Haiku
11I also couldnt find their website at all, how do you access that chat?
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Ok I guess
11Better alternatives are always welcomed, even if they're not universally needed or perfect. I already use their search engine quite regularly so I can imagine I will try this occasionally, though I think trust issues with AI chat will always be difficult to overcome for me since I've spent the majority of my life doing this stuff for myself.
9Meh. I'll stick with local llama and firejailed lmstudio.
8It's funny how fads have moved on from fashion and toys and onto the internet
5What is the link? It doesn't appear on main ddg page for me
5They really think their target audience will like it?
4Well, I mostly haven't used the existing tools because I did not trust the service providers with my privacy, and also I do not think these are such an all important tools.
However this is a proxy, basically. Isn't it?
So if we are fine using youtube through (video proxying instances of) Invidious and Piped, then this should be fine too (if you don't input private info of yours or others, that is)3
I become more and more doubtfull about DuckDuck
1I'll just use Jan locally on my machine and Microsoft Copilot for images.
1Which models do you run on jan? I often get very weird responses and/or never ending feedback loops.
That being said I still don’t have much use for text-based ai, it doesn’t really fill any gaps in my workflow
2Stealth 7B mostly
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I'm happy to stick with Brave. Far superior to DDG in literally every way.
-9Isn't brave owned by that weird crypto guy? And based on chrome?
10Yeah, and? It's one of the best options for privacy. I'm referring to their search engine though.
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Why would I use brave (with its weird fucked up crypto links) over Vivaldi? If you're using chromium anyway, I don't get the brave love.
4Better privacy, better UI not cluttered by excessive and unnecessary options, and a fantastic feature set... but I'm referring to their search engine in this context.
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As someone not hugely familiar with AI: what is superior about it and what do you use it for?
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