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Blinken tells CNN the US has seen evidence of China attempting to influence upcoming US elections

www.cnn.com Blinken tells CNN the US has seen evidence of China attempting to influence upcoming US elections | CNN Politics

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the US has seen evidence of Chinese attempts to “influence and arguably interfere” with the upcoming US elections, despite an earlier commitment from leader Xi Jinping not to do so.

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Yeah no shit. Every major power is trying to influence their rivals' elections, it's the most cost effective way to try and destabilize a country like the U.S. or China. What's more interesting is which side they're interfering for. We know the Republicans are firmly in Moscow's pocket, we know that Trump considers China an enemy, but that doesn't necessarily mean China wants a Democrat either. It could be that the geopolitical gains China made during Trump's administration outweighed all the trade war tariff nonsense, and they want the idiot to drag us further backwards so they can expand their hegemony.
- China's funneled almost as much money into Donnie's pockets as Russia. He's also not keen on maintaining alliances with Japan and South Korea. It's an easy choice for them.
  
  I think this might be the answer. An isolationist US won't mind an attack on Taiwan. Very clever.
- Trump considers China an enemy
  Hardly. https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/02/07/china-trump-biden-us-presidential-election-2024/
  
  This article basically just repeats my speculation in significantly more detail. Sure Trump said the words "I love China," but the man is a pathological liar who started a trade war with China after saying that and plans to start another one if elected. In his own special way, he even recognizes that the Chinese hegemony is slowly replacing the American one with his rambling on the yuan. They're certainly not friends, and the article's conclusion just indicates that the author thinks Beijing wants a useful idiot.
  
  The CCP just hasn’t offered Trump a large enough quantity of money yet.
- I think they're pro-delegitimizing. After that... I'm curious too.

It's cute when the US accuses countries of interfering with elections like they're protecting their world record or something
- Oh shit. Such a edgy comment buddy. Now tell me, what elections does China has for the US to be meddling wih?
  
  They f over Pakistan's elections just a few months ago, USA is the king of ruining functioning governments anywhere in the world.
  CIA straight up admitted they failed to gain an operational foothold in China like they did everywhere else which is why they never have a solid grasp on what China's next move will be. Not to mention the CCP makes arrests like monthly on people they believe or accuse of having connections to the CIA.
  
  Proof read your shit bruv.
  
  I think the point is that the US wanders the world (apart from China), election-meddling and influencing and coup-ing, and then all of a sudden when it happens to us it's some kind of pearl clutching emergency and crime.
  To be clear, I don't think we should be doing it to other countries, and I don't think they should be doing it to us. And I think the prospect of another Trump presidency would be so catastrophic for people the world over that it's worth resisting election interference on his behalf, even if you have no particular love for the US and its little adventures on the global stage. But certainly the US State Department getting upset that someone's influencing our democracy, even though we don't want them to, can be met with a certain amount of pure derisive laughter.
- Yeah, every nation does. I don't see your point. Is it not bad? Your comment seems to try to direct anger away from China, but also seems to imply it's bad the US does it. It's bad though, right? You aren't just making this comment to misdirect, right?

But hasn’t seen anything wrong with Israel, hmmm
- They're still asking Israel to investigate themselves.

Show us then.

I'm sure the same government that uncritically swallows every lie Israel has pushed to further their genocide is exactly who we should trust to vet this intel

DUH!

They only do this on days that end in y. Oh, and we already knew this. We're just here to let you know we've always been at war with Eastasia.

@mozz the hypocrisy is astounding. The USA has been interfering in elections for the year dot.
- He has to pay a price. Washington should embolden Turkish opposition leaders to be able to take on and defeat Erdogan.
  Oh shit that was an inside thought, not a lay out to the press what we’re planning to do type thought.
  Not by a coup, not by a coup, but by the electoral process.
  Whew. Saved it. That was a close one.
  
  Sounds awfully similar to "devote Imran Khan from PM and arrest his party, but uh don't kill him because that would be a coup"

"The Asian autocrats are taking over!" - local autocrats possibly

Just like how he can't see evidence for genocide in Gaza?
He needs to get his visioned checked.
- This one says "has."
  
  So he sees things that aren’t there but can’t see things that are there? Racism is blinding and Blinken is a racist ghoul

I don't doubt it there are influence attempts on the US election by China.

After this dude has been caught in like half a dozen lies on behalf of Israel in the last few months, who believes anything he has to say about anything?
That said, apparently independent researchers generally back up what he's saying here
Washington DC and Beijing can both fuck off, imo

Is this where the hard right and tanky left starts up with the same narratives they had about "Russia hoax" in relation to 2016?
- That narrative is from a while ago - in this thread they seem to still be stuck on “Biden is bad, genocide, union buster, as a good leftist person I can’t support him and you shouldn’t either,” even in this article that has nothing to do with that. Also there’s someone who’s saying January 6th wasn’t real.
  Someone needs to update their configuration a little, I think.
  
  Yeah, I think some of these people are right wingers posing as leftists just being agent provocateurs. Some are probably actually leftists that are spending a lot of time huffing each others' farts and really do believe that they just need to "send a message" to Democrats by letting donnie snake his way into office. This is the same old tired "the people need to be jolted awake" narrative that has been popular among a certain type of personality ever since I can remember. Maybe these people were always among us. I've noticed they are usually people that are extremely rich (and have options to leave the country) and/or are one of the in-group (white xtian cishet) , or hope to be considered one of the "good ones" if they don't tick all the boxes of the in-group...if their little pipe dream of a magical vanguard of enlightened hoi polloi don't bring about their vision of utopia after the actions of a fascist regime has brought about their awakening...
  What they don't seem to realize is that if fascism really comes this time, and when donnie's goons are at their door, telling the goons that these purity ponies didn't vote for Biden will mean sweet fuckall. Also, if they don't get out in time, their money/status and so on won't save them, either.
- Have you ever considered not being a net-negative human?

They are priming the response when Biden loses, so they can blame someone else for their ineptitude and failure to govern.
- Except if you're willfully being ignorant or arguing in bad faith, it's been known that Russia and China have been meddling in elections.
  
  Not as much as the RNC and DNC interferes in our elections
- failure to govern
  I have a new one for the bulleted list that usually just goes over reductions in CO2 emissions, growth in wages for working people even outpacing historic inflation that wasn’t Biden’s doing, etc etc the normal stuff that represents a big upward departure from the norm for US presidents.
  He fired the guy who used to run the NLRB, and put in a bunch of actually pro-labor people, who gave lots of material support to all this union activity that coincidentally has been meeting with all sorts of success over the last couple of years.
  
  That’s great and all, but is he still sending weapons that will be used to kill innocents?
  
  How much climate damage is US weapons contributing to in the ME? Can't claim wages are up when homelessness is growing and 50% of renters can't afford rent. The elderly are being priced out of their homes and into the streets. Union support is growing because of labor support, not the government. And union support is growing because of stagnant wages.
- More like failure to stop a genocide, but nice try.

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