Forcing workers back to the office could be terrible for the environment

“Could be?”

We know it is. I don’t wish for Covid again, but remember when all the waterways started clearing up (didn’t dolphins show up in Venice at some point?) and the smog cleared in places that haven’t seen a blue sky in decades?

Who cares about the environment when we could be hoarding more money. Can anybody please think about those poor CEOs? :(

Never, never, never, will I spend 1h the morning and 1h the evening in traffic jam to do 15 miles, never again.

EDIT: in winter snow storm it was 2-3h !!!

I've been forced back to the office. I hate it. I hate the commute. I hate the cubicle. I hate the forced small talk interaction with coworkers.

I'm more productive when I worked remote. Less hassled. Less tired from not having to commute.

It makes me not want to work here any longer.

Unnecessary RTO needs to be banned

I’m someone who vastly prefers to work in an office. It’s kind of a pain in the ass dealing with remote workers, meetings having gone to teams instead of in person, it just feels impersonal and as a former manager it is harder to maintain and keep your staff engaged.

But this is the modern workforce, and we have plenty of evidence that productivity is still there with a hybrid or remote office. When I was a manager I had to change my strategies, I had to adapt and learn, just like everything else I do in my professional life. Now that I am part of leadership but without direct reports, it’s just more adapting and learning that I am doing to stay relevant.

poor management is why all these companies are trying to force people back, it’s just people who cannot adapt.

RTO, much like everything else is about rich people. The Canadian Federal government just announced that all public servants must be in office 60% of the time by September (up from 40%). And the only reason is due to lobbying by real estate holders and businesses downtown.

I'm so fucking tired of rich people not only having the advantage of being rich but also getting every other advantage handed to them by the government.

Could be? It absolutely is! That would be an extra 50 miles I would have to drive every weekday. They have entire global organizations meeting together to figure out where to set goals for cutting emissions, but these easily-avoidable emissions are fine apparently. The so-called "leaders" aren't taking the problem seriously.

But my company says it cares for the environment and does environmental things like improving algorithms for patches to reduce computing power needed and therefore save the energy worldwide (an actual example of a recent win by our environment consciousness team right after forcing thousands of people to RTO)

It's terrible for everyone except billionaire property investors.

You mean the same companies responsible for our current climate may not care about what RTO does to their workers or the world?

: shocked Pikachu:

The cats out of the bag, and businesses know it.

This is why they never want us succeeding in improving our lives. It reveals how they've been lying to us and we were just stupid enough to go along with it.

Already is.

My commute is already about 10% longer thanks to the extra traffic. People fled the city and moved to the burbs after covid, then RTO hit and now a bunch of them are on the roads. Easily added a measurable amount of time to my drive, and I’ve been doing the same commute for a decade.

“Could be?” Like the way falling on your head from 5 stories up “could be” unhealthy?

Some Executives have no understanding of the need for Deep Work and can't imagine how the office isn't good for it.

The problem is executives have no need of deep work, that's what they hire others for. Bad executives don't understand this and assume you need what they need.

Yeah but it’ll make a bunch of fuckbrains feel good, tho.

Could be? Seriously?

"Sounds good to us!" -- CEOs of the world.

The people who care about this stuff never bothered to gain any wealth or power so it doesn't really matter

Less so if we build better cities thst dont require everyone to drive cars everywhere to do anything

But "we're better together!"*

*terms and conditions may apply. Past results do not guarantee future gains.

And really some jobs can be totally done at home. Like planning an other administrative stuff. Everything else where you need to be there at the job site should be the only thing coming back. Like builders, engineering, hair styling, receptionist, etc, those jobs need to be done at the job site, we all get it. But everything else, we just need a good org chart and teams....or something better....plz could some software company create a teams software where you can share a power point in full screen? It's hilarious when you try Sharing a PowerPoint on teams and you get like a whole 1/4 of the screen to show the PPT. Then you gotta go a little known menu here to remove the people, so the PPT gets a little bigger, then another setting to go "full screen" and you get another 3 extra pixels, then go to view some such to get another 5 pixels. It's ridiculous! But it's what limits the people who can work at home. Just need better collaboration software. Anything is better than Microsoft.

Like any of you teenagers actually have jobs anyway