2023 Italian Grand Prix - [RACE] discussion thread
FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAN PREMIO D’ITALIA 2023
| Circuit stats | |
|---|---|
| First Grand Prix | 1950 |
| Number of laps | 53 |
| Lap record | 1:21.046 Rubens Barrichello (2004) |
| 2022 winner | Max Verstappen |
Now watch the Ferraris take each other out.
It almost happened! Holy shit...!
That would be so painfully ironic. Imagine going from P1 and P3 in qualification to a lap 49 DNF.
I was so worried the entire time
That was an unusual rookie mistake by Hamilton. 🤔
5 second penalty felt light give he just took a constructor rival out of the points.
Yeah bring back the drive thru penalties.
I expect so much more from him tbh.
Leclerc's performance the last laps laps was dismal. He completely lost his head, heavily overdrove his car and tires in corners and under braking and losing it entirely a couple of times.
I think he’s a bit frustrated. Ferrari have kept going backwards in his time there, and it’s got to hurt to see Max, who he kept up with almost 1:1 in all the junior formulas, winning everything and taking every record.
But yeah, his driving at the end was abysmal. The tifosi would have lost it if he took out Sainz in T1 of the final lap
Crazy to think not too long ago Hamilton was lapping Albon in a Red Bull. Now Albon is ahead of Hamilton in a Williams
It makes me happy to see his recent success. He's out driving his car every weekend.
Sainz, Leclerc and Perez basically doing identical laptimes. Let's ignore Max and it's all really tight
That describes the 2023 season really.
True story.
Sainz seems to constantly move twice without consequences.
Braking late and running over the chicane is the defense maneuver of today?
Monza doesn't exactly encourage overtaking
Almost 30 years of watching F1, and there's still something new 😄
race control being confused lol
Is this really news though?
I was expecting a dull race for some reason, but it turned out to be a pretty fun one
Rogue mechanics jumping onto the grid lol
Kinda looked like Alfa to me.
I thought it was someone from Aston - unless the Alfa lot have different gear this week with the livery change.
I’m excited to see the new and innovative strategies Ferrari will use to completely fuck up their race.
Carlos doing so well to control Max's attack.
He really is. It's all he can do, too. Not enough pace to build a gap.
I'm fairly certain the McLarens will pass Albon, but I hope Albon stays in the top 6.
If anyone can stretch those tires it's Albon.
Albon has great speed on the straights, but his tires are getting old, now.
This is a fantastic race!
It was! That chicane really put in the work today. Nail biter the whole race.
Yuki out before the race start. Not an auspicious beginning.
Better now than during the first lap or two I suppose.
Ham seems to be on good strat, medium tire till the end of the race
He's going to make this McLaren-Williams fight really interesting
Happy the two Ferraris finished that race in one piece. Those last couple laps were intense. I’m always happy to see two drivers from the same team battle, but that was something else. Congrats to Max for the 10 wins in a row.
Soo, how far will Vestappen be ahead today?
A: 0-10s
B: 10-20s
C: 20-30s
D: more than 30s
Is this after the first lap or first pitstop...
D will not happen. Then he will demand an additional pitstop for softs and the fastest lap.
If F2 is anything to go by today, it'll be due to so many people going off. Which heavily increases the likelihood of another driver dive-bombing him, not being able to brake, and to take him out because it's glory or nothing. My money would be on Leclerc doing that because his position is being threatened by Sainz.
Rosberg cant let go of his phone 😂
He just matched with a hottie on tinder.
Himself?
First time this year I've seen the other cars not look like F2 cars alongside the red bulls.
Probably more laps led by a non-Redbull this race than every other race combined this season
Sainz did excellent. Ferrari just needs to not screw up their pitstop now.
He did absolutely everything he could. The best racing against max we've seen all season.
Hopefully the undercut is powerful.
Austrian TV just aired a highlights summary of the 1988 Italian GP, which was the only race of that season not won by Senna/Prost in the McLaren. Gerhard Berger and Michele Aboretto snabbed the double win for Ferrari in their first race victory in a decade.
Really cool to see these kinds of historical tidbits.
How has Perez not yet gotten a penalty for track limits? I thought for sure he's left the track more than 3 times.
He's given the positions back, which is basically the consequence. Overtakes outside of track limits aren't legal, but the stewards generally just order the position returned to the driver who was ahead before the driver left the track.
Stewards should have given him a warning for track limits for sure
Italian civil war right here
So what happened to Ocon, anyone knows?
What are the chances that McLaren beats Aston Martin in the constructors by the end of the season? They've already fallen behind Ferrari.
Seems unlikely to me. The gap's far too much to cover in 8 races even if it's only Alonso scoring points for AM.
So now 10 laps until sainz tires give up and max drives by?
"he's already sliding so it's all OK" - Max
The entire track is a DRS train
Ferrari, and more specifically Sainz did his best there. Now we have to see if Ferrari can at least hold on to 2nd and 3rd.
Don't the Mercs traditionally run hot?
They definitely were with the "no-pod" spec cars, but it think it's gotten quite a bit better since they've moved away from that concept.
Thanks, mate. Appreciate the explanation
Everyone on grid so no advantage.
Now here's to hoping Williams doesn't fuck Albon on strategy
Alonso taking a siesta
Just like Kimi nodding off in the car.
Aaand Max got past Hamilton who still has to pit.
Masterclass drive by Max. Hamilton is washed-out.
/s
So it’s 4 DRS trains so far.
Dang. Yuki out already. Hopefully Liam's car is fine.
Race director uses teamradio and Discord to communicate with the teams, according to Alexander Wurz.
For some reason no message via the official notification board this time, usually this should happen (and is visible as a toast message on the TV feed).
This year's hards were last year's mediums, right?
Are these hards expected to last the rest of the race?
The tyre compounds are selected on a per race basis, yeah? But yeah I think the hards are supposed to last roughly 30 laps.
Perez not able to pull away from Leclerc, and losing to Sainz
Awesome start by Carlos! Hopefully Leclerc can keep on Max and put a little pressure on him
"Try your best". Thank you, Ferrari, that's great advice.
What's a pit stop worth? For when it rains? lol
Expecting maximum procession. Pits only chance for advance
So what are the odds something moronic is done by one of the drivers on lap 1 and we get a Red Flag?
So now everything again with lawson?
Leclerc has already dropped so much since losing DRS.
I wonder if they'll have to lift and coast if they underfueled because of potential safety cars.
Not after three formation laps
True, but I'm still curious whether some people gambled harder. If they had to get Yuki's car out during the race it would have been more laps I think.
Russell's already 7s ahead of the car behind him, negating the penalty.
I'm always hoping for a safety car at this point in a race.
3 tenors? Who could have predicted that?
gg wp see you next week
The only chance Ferrari have to win this race is crash out Max. Let's be honest here
They're definitely not going to win on pace. Hopefully Ferrari can make the better strategy calls (lol)