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Bluesky Is Building The Decentralized Social Media Jack Dorsey Wants, Even If He Doesn’t Realize It

www.techdirt.com Bluesky Is Building The Decentralized Social Media Jack Dorsey Wants, Even If He Doesn’t Realize It

There was a bit of news in the world of decentralized social media over the past few weeks. It kicked off with the announcement that Jack Dorsey had left the board of Bluesky. This was followed by …

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  • Apparently then, the decentralized social media network Jack wants is one that's still almost completely centralized.

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    • Arguing against that, of course, is nostr being out there at the opposite extreme where it appears to have more different kinds of client software than it has users.

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  • Like Mastodon, but commercialized?

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  • Eh, bluesky is another federated solution, that turned out to be quite similar to activitypub. Perhaps not in implementation, but in user experience. And after having used activitypub for quite a while, I don't think it is the solution to decentralised social media.

    I've been really enjoying nostr, even though it doesn't have the content or user base of the fediverse just yet.

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    • Curious what you think the issues with AP are. Other than the nature of the fediverse being confusing to new users (not sure which instance to sign up for, etc), I haven’t had any issues with it. I would like to see community syncing between instances for more seamless discovery, though.

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      • Complexity to new users is definitely not better on nostr, just as confusing if not worse, currently. The reason I think nostr is on a better track than AP, is because I came to AP running from problems that I had on reddit, only to find the same problems on a smaller scale. Here's what I can think of off the top of my head:

        • Variety of clientes
          • Both AP and nostr fix this.
        • Centralised power
          • Nostr fixes this, by making it so that your identity is usable anywhere.
          • AP kinda fixes this, but doesn't go far enough. If the admin of your instance decides to not federate with another instance, you have no say in that. Your only option is to migrate to another instance, and since AP doesn't have nomadic identities, you have to start from scratch. Mastodon's export feature doesn't go far enough.
        • Disagreement with mods
          • Nostr fixes this by offloading modding to individual users. You chose to mute what you dont want to see. A highly requested feature here on Lemmy.
          • AP kinda fixes this, where if you don't agree with mods, you can start a different community, or a similar community on a different instance, but then you have the same problem as with centralised power, and are at the mercy of admins.

        To be truly sovereign on AP, you gotta run your own instance, which is very impractical, and lacks nomadic identities. With nostr, you own your identity, because your identity is just a cryptographic key, which can be used anywhere, on any node.

        To be clear, I think AP is a clear improvement over centralised services, thus why I still use it. I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I just think nostr is the better protocol to build decentralised services on top of.

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    • Nostr has a small userbase but on the right track.

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    • I think of ActivityPub as a sort of bidirectional RSS feed. It makes much more sense in that way than it does as social media.

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    • Downvoted for stating an opinion, huh? Great, feels like I'm back on reddit.

      Instead of downvoting because you disagree, please reply to my comment with the reason.

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