Larian knows Baldur's Gate 3's D&D combat is super complicated: "We used to joke you basically need a tutorial for every class"

Just in case you don’t know, jump distance is determined entirely by the strength stat

Tbf paladin does still have a number of spell that I've used like compel duel, command and the healing spells. Plus I ended up taking 2 lvls in druid to get more spells and slots. Thorn whip is pretty good on a paladin.

Some people are just never going to learn them.

Different values. That's normal. Some people game to win, some people game to explore, some people play to socialice and some people play to unwind. Ask them what is the most important thing about playing for them.

It's perfectly fine to not be a stickler about rules, the real trick is finding a DM who is cool as shit and not all caught up with their own self importance as the controlling power of the game. Play to have fun and roll with it. As long as the group as a whole and the one player is still having fun, that's all that matters.

"Camaraderie, adventure, and steel on steel. The stuff of legend! Right, Boo?" - Minsc the Great, uh, Philosopher Barbarian Ranger

I guess I'm still expecting the reddit response to this kind of thing. I got torn to shreds over there for saying this, despite it being a game I'm playing solo.

a separate program that allows one to "cheat" (not a bad thing, as long as it's not done in multiplayer) by scanning and modifying the game's memory.

for example, it could figure out where your hitpoints are stored and constantly overwrite that value with your full hit points

I initially started on easy, but just found it far too complex of a system to get my head around, and when my work hours can see me going days between play sessions, any knowledge I do pick up often isn't retained. I also just don't enjoy turn based combat at all, so when I enter combat, I just throw on god mode and infinite turns to get it over and return to the story or quest more quickly (I'll often alter things depending on what's happening in the game at the time though. For example, I did the Gauntlet of Shar with Shadowheart on her own, as it felt like something she needed to tackle solo, even if I wasn't in any genuine danger.)

I guess tl;dr - even easy was a bit too much for me to take in given my work schedule, as well as the combat taking a lot of time away from the aspects of the game I love, namely exploration and stories.

Not the one you're asking but I feel the same as them.

I am playing on the easiest setting with no mods because it's my first playthrough, I can finish the combat sessions without struggling but I don't like the combat mechanics at all, this system is just not for me.

Next playthrough I'll use mods and if there's something that can make combat finish as fast as possible so I don't have to deal with it too much, I'll definitely use it.

I'm using WeMod, personally.

I think it mainly comes down to the length per encounter, on top of the turn based system and mechanics I'm very unfamiliar with. I have pretty severe ADHD too, so it's kinda a perfect storm of combat mechanics I've never been a fan of. I prefer real time, "learn the patterns" style combat ala Dark Souls or Sekiro. If I was younger and had more time to play, I'd likely have pushed through and learned the way BG3 plays on a fundamental level, but the reality is, I have 3-5 hours to play once or twice a week, and I just don't want to sacrifice time in a combat system I don't find enjoyable when I could be out adventuring and meeting new characters.

I'm a different commentor but wanted to reply with my biggest complaint about the combat is that I can't skip the enemy turns and fast forward through them. It gets real tedious when you get into the encounters with like 20+ enemies. Otherwise I enjoy the combat. Do wish opportunity strikes against me would trigger a warning and ability to cancel my movement though since I often miss the red arrow or I misclick 1mm too far.

"You're having fun wrong"

Then fucking comment somewhere else. This thread is for discussing combat difficulty, not raging at other people's opinions you stupid small dicked cunt.

Take about 20% off there, bud.

lol seethe

Yeah, turn it down a notch, dude.

Yeah it's insane to me seeing this take around with this release. There are definitely intentionally rules light, heavy narrative systems that are less crunchy but DnD is not really very complicated.

Eh, there are different kinds of simplicity. My big problem with 5E is that it puts so much at GM discretion without any strong guidance than it feels like a completely different system between one GM and the next. This does in fact make character creation (and to a lesser extent gameplay) needlessly complicated because what constitutes an optimal (or even reasonable) character depends heavily on which rules the GM is going to choose to use.

When you're playing with paper and dice, things go off the rails real quick. The players can pretty well do whatever they get into their heads to do. One party that I remember decided to start digging a tunnel in the middle of a dungeon. I still don't really know where that idea came from.

I don't disagrer, but UI in BG3 is way overdone relative to the system's complexity. Solasta did it better.

The fact that they let prepared casters change prepared spells without a long rest is a HUGE buff. As written you pick your spells when you long rest, and if it turns out you needed something you didn't prepare you'd be out of luck

5e isn't Vancian casting though.

Vancian casting is so much worse.

5e (and BG3 in turn) even simplified Vancian casting compared to previous versions. Used to be that you had slots that you prepared a specific spell for. If you had four slots and needed to cast Magic Missile three times, but you used two of those slots to prepare Grease and Fog Cloud, you were out of luck.

It’s a holdover that doesn’t work great.

It... Does. I enjoy having spell levels and slots way more than something like mana. In any system with mana I almost always use either the most dmg/mana efficient spell or the big one, etc. Having spells be divided in levels and action/bonus action makes for a much more interesting combat.

For example, I much preferred the way DS1&2 does spellcasting compared to DS3 and elden ring. You have a limited amount of casts and the system forces you to either have a varied spellcasting repertoire or to find your way to get several of the same spell to ge more uses. Mana is... mana. Boring.

I'm a casual in that I play games not to prove anything to anyone, but to escape to another world for a couple hours. It makes no sense that it's not even an OPTION.

I'll have to try that. Assumed it would lock you into the higher difficulty.

I think lots of people didn’t know what kind of game they were expecting. Some people bought the game because it was popular, rather than because they necessarily like the genre.

I’m not a DnD fan (tried playing a few times, just never clicked) and I find that the same things that I disliked about it are also the things I dislike about BG3.

That’s not to say it’s a bad game, and I’m enjoying it quite a bit, but there’s definitely elements of DnD that I feel are very limiting to the enjoyment of playing.

I'm very aware of all of that. I still don't like the heavy RNG lol. I want to save scum less, that's what I'm expecting. Even if it's 5e combat. I'm just not a fan of DnD combat, but I still love everything else about bg3.

It's amazing how stupid some people are. You miss out on some amazing story and interaction by failing some rolls. Just like real D&D.

Yeah well when I do three 1/20 on a row when using inspirations dice on a roll your character should be a pro at it's... Frustrating.