Bump stock ruling could trigger booming rapid-fire marketplace
Bump stock ruling could trigger booming rapid-fire marketplace
thehill.com
Bump stock ruling could trigger booming rapid-fire marketplace
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15645865
If the Supreme Court rules that bump stocks aren’t machine guns later this summer, it could quickly open an unfettered marketplace of newer, more powerful rapid-fire devices.
The Trump administration, in a rare break from gun rights groups, quickly banned bump stocks after the 2017 mass shooting at a Las Vegas concert that was the deadliest in U.S. history. In the ensuing years, gun rights groups challenged the underlying rationale that bump stocks are effectively machine guns — culminating in a legal fight now before the Supreme Court.
If there's one thing the us needs, it's a way for people to shoot each other more effectively.
The "funny" thing is: We don't. This is all a red herring/sacrificial lamb by the gun nuts to make people think legislature is doing anything.
The two most common rounds used in mass shootings in the US are the 5.56 mm/.223 (AR-15/M-4 round) and the 9mm pistol round. And while the type of round matters a lot, the commonly used variants of each tend to not over-penetrate to a significant level. What that means is that when it hits a kindergartner it stays in the kindergartner and tends to not cause significant damage to the Bluey stuffy they were protecting.
Which, combined with the fact that militaries generally strongly frown upon (if not disable) full automatic fire on rifles, means that fire rate beyond "it is semi-automatic and fires as fast as you squeeze the trigger" is not important. Rapidly squeezing a trigger is considerably more effective than holding a rifle in just the right way to utilize a bump stock or just holding down a trigger to mag dump.
But it provides a "culture war" talking point so that people can feel like concessions are being made when you can still buy almost exactly the same rifle we are giving special forces at a walmart.
Unless we ban all semi-automatic/double-action firing mechanisms (which I would actually be very okay with and consider a genuinely good compromise), rate of fire is largely irrelevant. People aren't going to be able to flee any faster from someone dumping a magazine with a single trigger pull or a jiggly bullshit.
What matters are getting rid of fucking AR-15s (there is a REALLY good and horrifying article that goes into why the 5.56 round is so fucked up. Well worth googling) and drastically reducing magazine capacities.
AR-15s are rarely used to kill people. Handguns are used in 90+% of all gun homicides.
556 is not some magical round, it's weaker than a normal hunting round. My AR10 shoots 308 and my 458 socom AR rounds are bigger than that.
Im not so sure I would completely throw out indescriminate fire as not being bad but overall I agree with you. If you think about legitamate uses of guns I don't see any that require more than the shooter outside of convenience (or you could argue a really bad shot needs it but I would argue maybe they should not have a gun outside of a range until they get gud).
A 223 fmj round will go completely thru 1/8" steel at 50 yards what the fuck are u smoking when u say it won't go thru a body???
9mm may not if its a hollow point because of mushrooming and lower muzzle velocity.