What will the next UK Labour government do about Brexit?
What will the next UK Labour government do about Brexit?
Britain's Labour Party does not want to discuss Europe before next year's election — but it will still need to make some difficult choices.
I don't want to know.
Until it's actually election time, I don't want to know what their vision is.
They can't "Brexit" any harder than the Tories have, and if they say anything negative about the obvious deficiencies of Brexit ahead of the election, they give the Tories ammunition to drum up more tribal support.
Let the real-world consequences of Brexit play out and speak for themselves. For now.
15They are probably right to stay silent on it, and probably not mention it when campaigning. Unfortunately a lot of their core voters supported Brexit, so they don't want to alienate them (see what happened last time when they lent their votes to the Tories).
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Any conversation that Labour has regarding Brexit is an opening for the Tory ERG to push their own twisted narrative. Since Tories control the media, then that will be the loudest voice. Labour will not fair well in that sort of fight. There are still plenty of idiots who do not accept the damage that Brexit is doing.
The latest yougov poll shows that:
If the 2016 referendum on UK membership of the European Union was being held now, how would you vote?
31% would still want to leave the EU, with only 55% would be voting to remain
If there was a referendum now on whether the UK should or should not join the European Union, how would you vote?
32% would be against with 51% would be for it
So for all a lot of the country is aware how damaging our Brexit stance it, this is not really enough. We cannot convince anymore due to the strength of Tory media. The only way Starmer can beat this is by giving facts when in government. While keeping in mind that we will only ever get one chance to reverse this fiasco, would you rather it was done in haste or with as many educated as possible?
13What damage is brexit doing?
Have you not heard the news?
-3Depends who you ask, doesn’t it
- the OBR have said it’s currently costing 4% of GDP per year and trade with the block is down 15%
- 80% of touring musicians have said their income is affecting by new restrictions on working in the EU
- travellers will tell you the delays at port of dover, when a critical incident was declared due to queues caused by increased processing time
- the welsh government have said they’ll be down a billion quid over a 3 period after government failed to keep its promises of matches funding
- scientists are bit more cheerful having dug themselves out of the shit just this week and regained access to science funding.
The list is as long as you want it to be, but it’s All by the by really, because the better question - since it was pitched as being to the betterment of the UK - what benefits has it delivered?
11Are you for real?
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In the first term of a Labour government they will maybe be a bit less hostile towards the EU but they won't be re-joining or anything. They'll have no mandate to do so since they worry putting it in a manefesto would alienate their red-wall voters.
As it currently looks Labour won't do much of anything at all. Continue tory spending plans, refuse to raise any taxes, not rebuild any schools, not make any changes which may affect the social order or reform capitalism in any way.
Expect 4 years of calm with almost nothing happening. Which in itself will be quite a relief.
7I'm guessing they don't want to piss off their voter base so they wonttsay anything and continue the Tory policy of making the best out of a shite situation?
6Tory policy of making a shite situation out of the best
13Or that 🤣
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I think they'll push to join the customs union
3With ol’ Keir ‘industry plant’ Starmer at the helm? Not a single useful thing.
0Whatever the rich people they serve tell them to
0God help us if we get a labour government. The present government has navigated through some very rough waters - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine war, but at least the country still functions and provides employment for the people. I dread to think a Labour government steeped in entitlement, elitism and and cancelation will do to the country.
-9Navigated is doing some heavy lifting there.
Tory austerity has made all those things harder than they needed to be.
Not sure you understand what entitled and elite mean tbh
4So ….with the health service on its knees and falling over, schools crumbling, rivers poisoned, a broken relationship with our biggest trading partner, a law breaking cabinet who partied in lockdown, a prime minster that lied about it, billions upon billions pissed away through corruption and billions on top that pissed away on HS2 and Hinckley point, your conclusion is “at least the country still functions” ?
That’s mind bending. Utterly mind bending
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