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Donald Trump was convicted on felony charges. Will he go to prison?

www.nbcnews.com Donald Trump was convicted on felony charges. Will he go to prison?

Trump was convicted of falsifying business records, a class E felony which is punishable by a fine, probation or up to four years in prison.

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"He wants to know before he sentences someone what the typical sentence is," Aidala said, and would consider other factors, like Trump's age and lack of a criminal record, while also taking into account the lack of injury caused by the crime

Lack of injury?? He literally committed crimes to get elected, which he did. 340 million Americans had to suffer this dipshit being president for 4 years. A million of us died during his piss-poor response to COVID!

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My heart : "YES!!!!!"

My brain - which has seen what people like, for example, the Wal-Mart heiress who literally ran someone over that then died never spent a moment in jail... : "No."

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Once again, Betteridge's law applies perfectly.

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- They had to fucking ask didn't they!?!
  
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I can not WAIT for CONVICTED FELON DONALD J TRUMP who was found GUILTY and ALL 34 COUNTS to pay a $5000 fine and pinky swear not to do this again! THAT will teach him!

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- I hope it comes from Murkowsky! He's definitely learned his lesson, THIS TIME.
  
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Why can a felon run for president?

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- Because if they couldn't, elected officials would just have their opponents brought up on weak technical charges just to get them disqualfied.
  
  "Sir, you have been found guilty of jaywalking. As this is the third time you've been charged with this crime, that bumps it up to a felony under the ijustmadethisup act of 1793. The fine will be $50+ court costs. I also have to let you know that because you are a convicted felon, you are no longer allowed to run for office and have been removed from the ballot. Have a nice day."
  
  Not quite that silly, but you get the idea.
  
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  Maybe draw the line at idk, 30 felonies? That should cover any political bs.
  
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  so it's up to us not to vote for people who have 34 felony charges, got it.
  
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  Hah. Fair enough
  
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  Not quite that silly, but you get the idea.
  
  You joke but this bullshit tactic has been historically used to suppress voter's rights for over a century. Charge someone with a bullshit felony and they lose their right to vote forever.
  
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- While everyone is right about the reasoning, no one brought up the relevant historical example: Eugene Debs in the 1920 Election... which is unfortunate because it's a good one.
  
  Euegen Debs was a socialist candidate who ran in the 1920 elections after being jailed by Wilson's Sedition Act of 1918 for opposing the US joining WW1 and the accompanying draft.
  
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  I was not familiar with this historical fact, thanks for the info! That's definitely a good example of why it shouldn't bar someone outright.
  
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- Because if you're able to invalidate your opponent's candidacy for president, it makes a fascist takeover that much easier. Just change the laws so that any political opposition can't run against you, and bam your party has indefinite control.
  
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- If felons can't vote (they should be able to), they sure as shit shouldn't be able to run for office.
  
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  If it makes you feel better, he can't vote for himself.
  
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- Because when voters feel the punishment was unjust, they can choose to ignore it. For example: Nelson Mandela.
  
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  Nelson Mandela ran for president of the US?
  
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- So, let's say a political party is somehow at fault for charging and getting a verdict of an opponent. This would make it very easy to block anyone from running against the party in power if they so choose.
  
  The founding fathers saw how much of an issue this would be so limited the reasons for blocking someone from running for office. I don't think hush money is a good reason (though, doing so to block info that would make him lose an election I think should be but that will be up to the court)
  
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  Isn't there a bigger problem than who can run for president at that point?
  
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Let’s see how endlessly antagonizing the sentencing judge works out for him.

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Probably not, maybe house arrest? I'm curious to see if this has an effect on the other cases, if any. Can Jack Smith easily add a 2016 election interference count now that this is proven?

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- maybe house arrest?
  
  Imagine that he gets house arrest, then gets elected president. House arrest in the fucking White House, at least until he pardons himself. That's wild.
  
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  He can't pardon himself in these cases. They are New York state felonies, which means the governor of NY would have to pardon him. If they were federal, then he could maybe pardon himself.
  
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  If he cant leave his house, he cant travel to DC to be sworn in. If he cant be sworn in, he cant become president.
  
  IIRC, the legal consensus is that while the 24th ammendment doesn't cover a a president elect, his VP would be sworn in as President.
  
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No

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- But can we at least get him out the election?
  
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  Also no
  
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My prediction: he may or may not go to jail.

My other prediction: either outcome will not influence his Nazi cult.

My other prediction: we were wrong on how 2016-2023 was down right weird. 2024 has us holding it's double long island with no soda.

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- 2025 is just a huge bag of cocaine.
  
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  That bag is gonna have Fentanyl and Xylazine mixed in as per tradition.
  
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No. But the hysteria from Ronald McDonald and his supporters is going to be lit.

Also: someone needs to meme that woman tRump supporter crying for him out in front of the court house. So tired of seeing that woman in the green jacket after Hillary "lost", supposedly being a stand-in for all liberals or something. Time to show how hysterical the right really is.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:

Two experts told NBC News that it's unlikely Trump will be imprisoned based on his age, lack of a criminal record and other factors — and an analysis of thousands of cases found that very few people charged with the same crime receive jail time.

During the trial, Judge Juan Merchan threatened to put Trump behind bars for violating his gag order, but it’s unclear if the former president will face similar consequences now.

Former federal prosecutor Chuck Rosenberg, an NBC News analyst, said it's unlikely that Merchan would sentence Trump, 77, to any jail time, given his age and his status as a first-time, nonviolent offender.

An analysis conducted by Norm Eisen, who worked for House Democrats during Trump’s first impeachment, found that roughly one in 10 people who have been convicted of falsifying business records are imprisoned, and those cases typically involved other crimes.

Kuby added that he believes "it is substantially likely Judge Merchan will sentence Trump to jail or prison time," despite the logistical and practical complications that locking up a person with Secret Service protection would entail.

It's also highly unlikely that comments that appeared to be aimed at sidestepping the gag order by Republican officials who attended the trial as Trump's guests will figure into the judge's reasoning, Kuby added.

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- 34 counts... If they don't sentence him, then what's the fucking point!? Anything less than jail time is just going to empower him. Lock his ass up!
  
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  Agreed, that post made it seem like he was innocent up until now. The e jean carrol conviction should relieve him of his first timer status
  
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  I can commit all the election finance fraud I want in the 2024 election and not have to deal with it until 2032 if I'm caught!
  
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  We're gonna live in a country where either a felon can run for president but not vote or where one candidate is blind to genocide and the other can't run because he's in prison.
  
  These all sound bad.
  
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Nope. He'll go straight into White House and will 'remove' 50% of US ppl. Either the hard way. Or they leave the country fast enough. USA is going the chinese or russian way. One leader with enough power to rule and many supporters who make profits in this odd system. The rest will suffer from this system. India and Europe will be there soon too.

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Possibly, but why allow the possibility in the first place? The idea was that the voters and electors would ultimately decide

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- Because he did crimes? Voters don't decide whether people go to prison for crimes (unless they are on the jury, I suppose).
  
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  But a government that potentially is nefariously attempting to block a candidate shouldn't be able to bar someone from being elected.
  
  eg. An English loyalist blocks George Washington from being president by fraudulently getting him convicted of a felony; is that a reasonable thing we should have codified in the Constitution?
  
  Do I want trump to be elected? Hell no. I also don't feel like we should go down the road where a political opponent can block someone from running illegitimately, either.
  
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- We did already.
  
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  And they should again.
  
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- Exactly, which is why his paying for the catch and kill proves your own point.
  
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