ContrarianTrail @ ContrarianTrail @lemm.ee

Independent thinker valuing discussions grounded in reason, not emotions.

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Perhaps the people voting for Trump see him differently than you do?

This argument could just as well be flipped the other way around; voting for a communist makes a person categorically a communist.

You don't think Kamala is a communist? Exactly.

If someone suggests that trans people are predators or perverts just because they want to be treated as the gender they feel, then yes, this person will be dismissed as a bigot.

As they should.

The reason I focus on the vocal minority is that, if those are the only voices someone hears from, I can’t blame them for feeling like everyone on that side is against them. It’s not an accurate perception, but it’s an understandable one.

I, for one, have to constantly remind myself that the views I see on Lemmy don’t represent the silent majority. Not everyone is able to make that distinction. If someone spends 8 hours a day debating politics on Twitter, there’s no middle ground - only the most extreme views get amplified. Anyone attempting a dispassionate, fact-based, non-partisan discussion gets attacked from both sides.

Abortion is a good example. Somehow, I’m a “blue-haired screaming liberal cuck” for thinking a total abortion ban is an indefensible position, but I’m also a “fascist bigot” for believing there should be a point after which abortion requires a legitimate medical reason, backed by a doctor - or even two.

Implying that every Trump voter is a fascist is idiotic and highlights just how out of touch political activists on social media are - regardless of which party they support.

Treating every Trump voter as a bigot is no different that treating every democrat as a communist. Can't really blame people for not voting for communists, can you?

Great display of double standards here again. It's fascism when they do it but perfectly understandable when we do.

Being fine with this mean you're no better than the people you oppose.

And go where? Get off twitter and come to Lemmy to get dogpiled for not having views that perfectly align with ours. People wont get off twitter untill you offer them a better alternative.

The issue isn’t that identity politics aren’t well-intentioned. The issue is that when the left focuses so heavily on them while dismissing anyone not 100% on board as right-wing bigots, they alienate a significant portion of the population. You never get to implement meaningful change because the people fed up with all this end up voting the other way. It serves no one’s interests to alienate straight white men and treat them as the root of all evil - that’s more than a third of the population.

Take someone like Joe Rogan, for example. The guy hadn’t voted Republican his entire life. He grew up in San Francisco with two hippie parents - you don’t get more classically liberal than him. He’s even had trans guests on his podcast. And yet, look at him now. He’s endured years of relentless attacks from the left, often treated unfairly and having his views misrepresented. Can you really blame him for switching sides? I can’t. Elon Musk is no different.

The left did this to themselves. If you want to win elections, the party has to be something people want to vote for. Right now, the only thing the Democrats have going for them is that the other side is even more unhinged. Simply being "less bad" just isn’t enough anymore.

I rarely buy stuff online and when I do it's usually something I could buy locally too but I get it for cheaper from China.

Shooting up a school is the easiest way to go from nobody to everyone talking about you the next day. Grim but true.

If I were a dictator I'd probably make it illegal to publish the names or any other information about the shooter. Even better if media wouldn't report on the shooting at all but I feel like prohibiting that would be taking it too far.

An actual conservative or assumed one? Because I get falsely accused of being one here regularly

This may not be the best platform to reach out for Trump supporters.

It's just bizzare to me that there's data caps on your internet plans. Especially since you're already paying 5x more than I'm for unlimited connection. I assume there must be some other reasons for this too than just greed. Perhaps the size of your country? I mean even Texas alone is almost as big as entire Europe.

I'm the only guy in my (small) friend group who still used pattern code instead of fingerprint so I take that to mean my phone is by default more difficult to break into than most. Giving my fingerprint to a giantic tech firm has always seemed like a bad idea so I never did. Though the fingerprint reader acts as a power button too so who knows if they've scanned it anyway.

The front lines are not static so you can only imagine the difficulty SpaceX has trying to determine which terminal is in Ukranian use and which ones are Russian. For all we know, they may have disabled hundreds if not thousands of terminals they've found out to be used by the Russians and are getting no credit for it. I don't buy into this narrative that Elon is personally invested into Russia winning. I've seen no evidence for it but plenty against it which everyone just seems to conveniently ignore because Musk bad.

It almost sounds like you’re trying to argue that he’s actually a man of his word. That guy wants a lot of things. Most of it he cannot get.

I simply don't agree with the premise, that the goal of the right is to "suppress or even erase trans people." Most people on the right don't even care as long as it's not pushed onto them and taken too far. Supporting gender-affirming surgeries for undocumented immigrants in custody is taking it too far, and if someone questions that, it doesn't mean they're transphobic.

And even if not, I'd rather be miserable on a cool bike.

When I was like three I watched the property maintenance dude plowing snow on our building's front yard with a pickup truck and I thought that not only was it the coolest job in the world, but oh, how badly I wanted a truck like that too.

Fastforward 30 years and there I'm staring at one in the used cars parking lot at the local dealership realising it's what I've always wanted and I can actually afford it too. Now I get to stare at it every single day because it's mine. I even ended up starting my own business later so now it's not only fun to drive and beatiful to look at but also useful.

Good for her.

I've found life to be slightly less stressfull when you stop worrying about this that you 1. can't do anything about and 2. likely wont even happen.

The world was supposed to end in 2016 when he got elected and I bought into that. It didn't. I'll be a bit more sceptical this time around.