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Rolio 46.1 Design Files Released
  • lol, yeah, I’ve brought the prices as low as I can, but even then it’s still not cheap compared to a big box store keyboard.

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    Rolio 46.1 Design Files Released
  • Please do, I’ll be selling the parts in January. But, everything you need to source your own parts is in the GitHub repository too.

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  • Hi All,

    I've just released all of the design files for the Rolio 46.1 keyboard. They can be found on GitHub below:

    https://github.com/MickiusMousius/Rolio46Keyboard

    I'll be opening a store in January to sell sub-assemblies & components to make it easier for people to build their own Rolio 46.1 without needing to chase as many components.

    Cheers

    MickiusMousius

    Here are a few more pictures too:

    !With travel case

    !All three chassis variants

    EDIT: Note to mods, if I need to add a vendor flair please let me know and I can re-post.

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    Cosmos (a new ergonomic keyboard generator) is in beta
  • That’s an awesome project.

    One of workmates has been using it, I’ve actually printed the resulting STLs from this when his printer died.

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    Rolio 0.9 Update
  • Index fingers, though you can use thumbs but that felt quite clumsy to me.

    In the base layer they act as arrow keys. In the functions layer they are volume and zoom.

    I’ve found the arrow key scrolling to be quite nice. It takes a little getting used to, but once you’re used to it regular arrow keys for text navigation feel clunky.

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    Rolio 0.9 Update
  • Yes. It’s fairly straight forward and there are test points to check everything is soldered properly as you go.

    There is one exception, the backlight has some very small surface mount parts, the SMD resistors in particular are quite fiddly.

    My current thinking is to sell pre-soldered kits with all the surface mount parts done (LEDs withstanding). This way people only need to solder the controller sockets and encoders to get a functioning keyboard.

    I will of course keep all of the design files freely available. If you order your own PCBs from JLCPCB you will need to order a batch of 5 so you’ll have some practice boards 😊

    I’m still working on a cost effective way to solve the pre-soldering of LEDs. I’ve looked into reverse mountable LEDs, but I’ve yet to find something that meets the required criteria (price, color, efficiency and availability).

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    Rolio 0.9 Update
  • Thanks.

    I am working on a similar MX design that has a number row (Rolio Max). In addition to the roller encoders it’ll have these bad boys too:

    https://au.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alps-Alpine/RKJXT1F42001?qs=6EGMNY9ZYDTsBzSTrhiL0w%3D%3D&mgh=1&vip=1

    It’ll be much more of an at home board than one you can shove in a backpack. But I figure why not make an all you can eat board too.

    I don’t anticipate having the prototypes even until December though as I’ve got a fair bit of work happening at the moment. In practical terms I guess that means no publicly available designs until early next year.

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    Rolio 0.9 Update
  • Thanks, I’ll get that sorted later tonight.

    Are you wanting to build one or just being helpful for those that might want to make one?

    I have a few spare PCBs of the posted iteration, if you’re based in Australia I’m happy to send some on. Though I’d recommend waiting for the 1.0 release.

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  • Hi All,

    Here's ht latest update to the Rolio split keyboard. It's now almost done, it just needs some minor cosmetic and manufacturability tweaks.

    The GitHub repo is here: https://github.com/MickiusMousius/RolioKeyboard

    !

    A quick run down on the features (so far):

    • The keyboard itself
      • Fully wireless thanks to the Nice!Nano controllers and awesome ZMK firmware
      • Excellent battery life, I've personally been getting 2+ weeks before it gets to 60% with the previous iteration.
      • A low profile, compact choc spaced form factor that is similar to the Corne
      • Additional "Sometimes" buttons on the bottom row just like the Sofle
      • Horizontal roller encoders on both halves
      • A backlight that is efficient enough to be used on battery
      • A robust chassis so that it can be treated like a normal keyboard
      • An FDM version for at home low cost production
      • A CNC option for a slick look and very premium feel
      • A travel case that can easily be made using any FDM printer
    • ZMK Keymap & Custom keycaps:
      • The keycaps are fully customized and match the ZMK keymap thanks to FKCaps
      • MacOS and Windows modes as part of the keymap to keep the "same" handy macros in both OSs
      • All of the symbols and special behaviors can be accessed using at most two keys
      • The settings keys and different modes are documented in the key caps themselves (easy to learn).
      • The keymap can be easily customized thanks to ZMK, the keycaps can also be customized to suit your needs
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    Travel Ergo Advice
  • I am possibly the worst person to ask. I got a soldering iron for my 9th birthday.

    But, I suppose practice, like anything. Watch a bunch of YouTube videos for beginners, get some practice boards (you can buy PCBs with a bunch of “junk parts”) to practice the skill. Also, get a decent soldering iron, I use a TS101, but apparently the Pinecil is good too. A bad soldering iron or bad solder are a disaster waiting to happen. Soldering is fairly easy to pick up until you get to the really tiny surface mount stuff (0805 and smaller). Most boards do not require that kind of soldering.

    Typeractive sell some wireless Corne kits that I believe have most parts pre-soldered.

    If you were is Australia I could sell you a wireless Corne with a travel case for parts cost (I don’t use it)… sadly you are not but you may find something on eBay??…..

    Best of luck I guess.

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    Rolio 0.1 Pre-Release
  • Thankyou.

    I’ve started assembling V1 today. Which means I can finish the mechanical design this week. I’m looking forwards to having it, I think it’s going to look very nice.

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    Rolio 0.1 Pre-Release
  • Thanks. The loose assumptions are dead on.

    Funnily enough after implementing the “math mode” I realised I’d made a gaming half board.

    If you use szxc instead of wasd in math mode you have all your numbers still. The left side has a USB mode so you can avoid lag that come from BT (though that hasn’t been an issue for me). SZXC could easily be remapped to WASD on the firmware.

    It got me to thinking whether I should tinker with a games mode…. But I don’t play enough PC games to have the right perspective for that. I suspect it’d be a very poor fit and more the kind of thing best left to people that like to make their own stuff to update the keymap who do a bit more of that than me.

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    Rolio 0.1 Pre-Release
  • Ah, sadly I don’t have this with ZMK, going wireless very much limits what can be done. I’d love to add a small trackball for example (PIM447 maybe) but the energy budget is a big factor.

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    Rolio 0.1 Pre-Release
  • Ah, yes, I did suspect this was muscle memory at work.

    The stagger is very similar to that of a Sofle though, and, inline with goals it should hopefully be usable by other newcomers.

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    Rolio 0.1 Pre-Release
  • Thanks.

    I took some hand measurements and this is what it came out with:

    I didn’t add the splay, I started to add it, but decided that in practical terms it likely doesn’t make much difference but it made things quite unwieldy looking.

    In practice I’ve found the pinky column needs to drop by about 3-4mm which is a change I have in the newest iteration.

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  • I've made the 0.1 design available to the public now.

    Ive been using it for a few weeks myself and its quite nice to use, particularly with the aluminium chassis (the GitHub repo has FDM and CNC designs).

    In any case, for those curious the GitHub is here: https://github.com/MickiusMousius/RolioKeyboard

    I am working on the V1.0 model, PCB's should arrive in a few days. I think the V1.0 release should be good enough for others to make. The current model is nice, but there are a lot of improvements in the pipeline particularly regarding aesthetics.

    V1.0 sample below:

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    I’ve been working on a design for a split keyboard that is a hybrid between a Corne and a Sofle.

    So fair the electrical and software aspects work, I still need to sort out the chassis.

    Some features:

    • Efficient backlight circuit (at 100% it uses 20mA)
    • Custom MBK Choc caps from fkcaps.com (the glow is awesome)
    • ~250mAh battery (still low profile as there’s a hole in the PCB for the battery)
    • Dual EVQ encoders
    • Fully wireless using Nice Nanos
    • The layout has MacOS and Windows modes
    • Choc spacing

    Once I’ve got the chassis done and I’ve cleaned everything up a bit I’ll open source it.

    Here’s a preview of the chassis design so far:

    !

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    Hi all, I made a chasis & travel case for my Corne so I could take it to & from work easily whilst testing the Corne form factor.

    So far it has been working quite well for me.

    Hopefully someone else might also find it useful.

    In the mean time I'm working on a new keyboard design that has the same basic form factor as a Corne with the following additions:

    • Since I move between Windows & Mac I've added two additional buttons to the bottom row.
    • I've added EVQ encoders in the place of TRS jacks as the build is 100% wireless.
    • I've also increased the battery size to ~250mAh without changing build thickness.
    • I've added a single colour backlight circuit.
    • A fully 3D printable chassis & travel case.
    • Depending on the cost I'll also be doing an aluminium case, but I think that may be too expensive (I'll see I guess).

    Boards are coming from JLPCB soon, if the whole thing works I'll open source it & post here.

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    I’ve been slowly accumulating knowledge to build my own custom keyboard.

    In order to do that I wanted to use some other people’s designs. In the process I made a 3D printable case for my first ergo mech keyboard.

    This case is for the standard Sofle 2.1 Choc with nice nano controllers and nice view displays, setup as fully wireless.

    I’ve not managed to get the right encoder to play nice yet, I suppose that’s part of the fun.

    In any case, I hope someone may also find this case useful either as is or a basis for something better.

    https://www.printables.com/model/522579-wireless-sofle-choc-21-case-with-niceview

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